[JONAT] How do we collect fees ?
Mark Stephenson
jonat@autox.team.net
Mon Feb 2 00:47:01 2004
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Hey, everyone.
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I think we are discussing something that doesn't need discussing. If the
SC want to collect a fee, let them collect a fee. If they don't want to,
then don't. I'm not going to collect one. It's too much hassle. If
people download the itinerary from the Internet, they won't need
anything from me. If they don't, I'll have a few copies available that
they can pay me for, or maybe I'll let them pay to have a master copied
at the hotel.
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If there is a sector fee, it should be listed on the website along with
the "highly recommended" costs like park entry fees, museum entry fees,
show entry fees, etc., that the tour is planning to attend.
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I think the EC could put an upper limit on the sector fee, so no one is
surprised, but hey, if someone downloads the entire route book off the
Internet and doesn't want to pay a sector fee, what are you going to do,
flatten a couple tires so they can't follow? We are on public roads, so
anything anyone pays is, for all intents and purposes, voluntary.
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So, we shouldn't be arguing about sector fees, except perhaps to list a
maximum. Beyond that, it's up to the SCs. A bunch of us have already
said we aren't charging one.
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Mark - AZ
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From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 5:01 AM
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Subject: [JONAT] How do we collect fees ?
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I've put some thought into this lately, and have come up with
Tour fees collected centrally, and Sector fees collected by the Sector.
The downside to this is people will be sending their money all over the
place, the upside is it keeps it distributed, with no monies passing
between central and/or the sectors. This might not be the best way
though ... any other thoughts?
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We will probably also need fairly quickly a couple of
registration people, one for the US, and one for CANADA. Jamie/Fazal
comments? I have started to put together some registration pages at
http://jonat.org/bob/RegistrationForm/RegistrationPageTest.htm if you
want to see how things are going on this ... note that when you submit
your registration by e-mail it does not work yet.
Bob=20
-----Original Message-----
From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Dr Gregory Andrachuk
Sent: January 31, 2004 10:57 AM
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [JONAT] decision time --- REALLY IMPORTANT READ !
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And, how exactly are these fees (both general and sector) to be
collected?
Gregory
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EC could put an upper limit on the sector fee, so no one is surprised, =
but hey,=20
if someone downloads the entire route book off the Internet and doesn't =
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pay a sector fee, what are you going to do, flatten a couple tires so =
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shouldn't be arguing about sector fees, except perhaps to list a =
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AZ</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D543114718-31012004><FONT size=3D2>I've put some =
thought into=20
this lately, and have come up with Tour fees collected centrally, and =
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fees collected by the Sector. The downside to this is people =
will be=20
sending their money all over the place, the upside is it keeps it =
distributed,=20
with no monies passing between central and/or the sectors. This =
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not be the best way though ... any other thoughts?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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also need=20
fairly quickly a couple of registration people, one for the US, and =
one for=20
CANADA. Jamie/Fazal comments? I have started to put =
together some=20
registration pages at <A=20
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href=3D"http://jonat.org/bob/RegistrationForm/RegistrationPageTest.htm">h=
ttp://jonat.org/bob/RegistrationForm/RegistrationPageTest.htm</A> if=
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you want to see how things are going on this ... note that when you =
submit=20
your registration by e-mail it does not work yet.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><FONT size=3D2><FONT =
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size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
jonat-admin@autox.team.net=20
[mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Dr Gregory=20
Andrachuk<BR><B>Sent:</B> January 31, 2004 10:57 AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
jonat@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [JONAT] decision time --- =
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IMPORTANT READ !<BR><BR></P></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>And, how exactly are these fees (both general and =
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be collected?</FONT></DIV>
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