[JONAT] Payment System NOT Ready

Fazal Cader jonat@autox.team.net
Mon Feb 16 03:02:00 2004


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MessageGreg, with all due respect, not everyone wins or gets as many =
plaques or prizes/mementos that relate to their Jaguar ownership. I am =
sure that many of those for whom JONAT may be the only organised Jaguar =
activity that they participate in, a memento would be appreciated.
Further, we are endeavouring to make JONAT more than just a =
flash-in-the-pan adventure and we need constant reminders of it out in =
the 23 months or so before the next one. From a marketing point of view, =
we need the paraphernalia of an organised event. Otherwise, we might as =
well just put the whole thing on the web, email everybody once and wash =
our hands of it.

Fazal Cader
Executive Committee, ISC - Australia
Jaguar Owner's North American Tour - www.jonat.org
April 15, 2004 - July 4, 2004


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Dr Gregory Andrachuk=20
  To: jonat@autox.team.net=20
  Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 9:10 AM
  Subject: Re: [JONAT] Payment System NOT Ready


  Fazal:
      I really urge that we keep the fee as low as possible to encourage =
participation; if the fee is related to giving the participants =
something "meaningful", I would vote for forgetting "meaningful". People =
are not doing this for the memorabilia we will provide; the experience =
of the trip is what will be worthwhile. I routinely "file" my car show =
plaques. The last thing I need is another one.
                                                      Gregory=20
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Fazal Cader=20
    To: jonat-EC/SC=20
    Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 1:32 PM
    Subject: Re: [JONAT] Payment System NOT Ready


    Greg, I think it was a bit premature to announce prices to JONAT, =
generally. I believe that it is going to have to be more than $20, if we =
want to supply anything meaningful. Anyway, the EC (to my knowledge) has =
not authorised anything.

    I would rather we 'launched' this section of the web as a completed =
unit, after we have decided on payment channels & amounts.

    Thank You.

    Fazal Cader
    Executive Committee, ISC - Australia
    Jaguar Owner's North American Tour - www.jonat.org
    April 15, 2004 - July 4, 2004


      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Greg Meboe=20
      To: jonat@autox.team.net=20
      Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 7:38 AM
      Subject: [JONAT] Payment System Ready


      The payment accounting system is ready for use by our treausurer, =
EC's and SC's.
      If you are an EC or an SC, look in your toolbar at the upper right =
corner of the Jonat home page for a "Payments" link.
      This takes you to a report showing the payment status of all Jonat =
members. You can sort the report by clicking on the column headers. =
Please take a look at the report and let me know what you think. =
http://jonat.org/admin/payments.cfm=20

      Right now the system is set up so that only EC's can modify =
payment information for members. I am wondering if SC's will also need =
the ability to accept checks and update the member's status to Paid, or =
if they will just collect checks and send them to the treasurer for data =
entry. My vote is to pass the work down to the SC's. What do y'all =
think?

      The EC has the authority to mark someone as Paid even if no money =
has been received. (I'm assuming SC's and above will not have to pay a =
tour fee). There is a long comment field so the EC can give their reason =
for exempting the user from payment.=20

      For accountability, the system records the name of the EC who last =
modified the user's payment status. A datestamp is applied.=20

      The tour fee is set right now at $20, but can be easily changed. =
Once we have a tour fee established, I will e-mail blast the users with =
a payment request. At that time the registration page will also show the =
payment fee and where to send the check.

      Greg
        -----Original Message-----
        From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net =
[mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob
        Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 1:30 PM
        To: jonat@autox.team.net
        Subject: RE: [JONAT] Re: Tour Badges


        I should have pricing on this by early next week ... Bob

         -----Original Message-----
        From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net =
[mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Bob
        Sent: February 11, 2004 3:54 PM
        To: jonat@autox.team.net
        Subject: RE: [JONAT] Re: Tour Badges


        I am getting some preliminary pricing on all the items in that =
PDF file ... I'll keep you posted ... Bob

         -----Original Message-----
        From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net =
[mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Fazal Cader
        Sent: February 11, 2004 3:24 PM
        To: jonat-EC/SC
        Subject: [JONAT] Re: Tour Badges


        Bob (et al)

        Let's get on with organising a car badge and a small numbered, =
ID sticker to put on the windscreen of the car.

        Fazal

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Greg, with all due respect, not =
everyone wins or=20
gets as many plaques or prizes/mementos that relate to their Jaguar =
ownership. I=20
am sure that many of&nbsp;those for whom JONAT may be the only organised =
Jaguar=20
activity that&nbsp;they participate in, a memento would be=20
appreciated.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Further, we are endeavouring to make =
JONAT more=20
than just a flash-in-the-pan adventure and we need constant reminders of =
it out=20
in the 23 months or so before the next one. From a marketing point of =
view, we=20
need the paraphernalia of an organised event. Otherwise, we might as =
well just=20
put the whole thing on the web, email everybody once and wash our hands =
of=20
it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Fazal Cader<BR>Executive Committee, ISC =
-=20
Australia<BR>Jaguar Owner's North American Tour - www.jonat.org<BR>April =
15,=20
2004 - July 4, 2004</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dv12-vdp@shaw.ca href=3D"mailto:v12-vdp@shaw.ca">Dr Gregory=20
  Andrachuk</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Djonat@autox.team.net=20
  href=3D"mailto:jonat@autox.team.net">jonat@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 16, 2004 =
9:10=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [JONAT] Payment =
System NOT=20
  Ready</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Fazal:</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I really urge that =
we keep the=20
  fee as low as possible to encourage participation; if the fee is =
related to=20
  giving the participants something "meaningful", I would vote for =
forgetting=20
  "meaningful". People are not doing this for the memorabilia we will =
provide;=20
  the experience of the trip is what will be worthwhile. I routinely =
"file" my=20
  car show plaques. The last thing I need is another one.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =

  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  Gregory</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dfazalc@usa.net href=3D"mailto:fazalc@usa.net">Fazal =
Cader</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Djonat@autox.team.net=20
    href=3D"mailto:jonat@autox.team.net">jonat-EC/SC</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, February 15, =
2004 1:32=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [JONAT] Payment =
System NOT=20
    Ready</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Greg, I think it was a bit =
premature to=20
    announce prices to JONAT, generally. I believe that it is going to =
have to=20
    be more than $20, if we want to supply anything meaningful. Anyway, =
the EC=20
    (to my knowledge) has not authorised anything.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I would rather we 'launched' this =
section of=20
    the web as a completed unit, after we have decided on payment =
channels &amp;=20
    amounts.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thank You.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Fazal Cader<BR>Executive Committee, =
ISC -=20
    Australia<BR>Jaguar Owner's North American Tour - <A=20
    href=3D"http://www.jonat.org">www.jonat.org</A><BR>April 15, 2004 - =
July 4,=20
    2004</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A title=3Dgreg@meboe.com href=3D"mailto:greg@meboe.com">Greg =
Meboe</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Djonat@autox.team.net=20
      href=3D"mailto:jonat@autox.team.net">jonat@autox.team.net</A> =
</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 16, =
2004 7:38=20
      AM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [JONAT] Payment =
System=20
      Ready</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
      class=3D411215219-15022004>The payment accounting system is ready =
for use by=20
      our treausurer, EC's and SC's.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
      class=3D411215219-15022004>If you are an EC or an SC, look in your =
toolbar=20
      at the upper right corner of the Jonat home page for a "Payments"=20
      link.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
      class=3D411215219-15022004>This takes you to a report showing the =
payment=20
      status of all Jonat members. You can sort the report by clicking =
on the=20
      column headers. Please take a look at the report and let me know =
what you=20
      think. <A=20
      =
href=3D"http://jonat.org/admin/payments.cfm">http://jonat.org/admin/payme=
nts.cfm</A>=20
      </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
      class=3D411215219-15022004></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
      class=3D411215219-15022004>Right now the system is set up so =
that&nbsp;only=20
      EC's can modify payment information for members. =
I&nbsp;am&nbsp;wondering=20
      if&nbsp;SC's will also need the ability to accept checks and =
update the=20
      member's status to Paid, or if they will just collect checks and =
send them=20
      to the treasurer for data entry. My vote is to pass the work down =
to the=20
      SC's. What do y'all think?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
      class=3D411215219-15022004></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
      class=3D411215219-15022004>The EC has the authority to mark =
someone as Paid=20
      even if no money has been received. (I'm assuming SC's and above =
will not=20
      have to pay a tour fee). There is a long comment field so the EC =
can give=20
      their reason for exempting the user from payment. =
</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
      class=3D411215219-15022004></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
      class=3D411215219-15022004><SPAN class=3D411215219-15022004>For=20
      accountability, the system records the name of the EC who last =
modified=20
      the user's payment status. A datestamp is applied.=20
      </SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
      class=3D411215219-15022004></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
      class=3D411215219-15022004>The tour fee is set right now at $20, =
but can be=20
      easily changed. Once we have a tour fee established, I will e-mail =
blast=20
      the users with a payment request. At that time the registration =
page will=20
      also show the payment fee and where to send the =
check.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
      class=3D411215219-15022004></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
      class=3D411215219-15022004>Greg</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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        <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT=20
        face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original =
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
        jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net] =
<B>On=20
        Behalf Of </B>Bob<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 13, 2004 1:30 =

        PM<BR><B>To:</B> jonat@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
[JONAT] Re:=20
        Tour Badges<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D912422821-13022004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2>I should have pricing on this by early next week ...=20
        Bob</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT=20
        face=3DTahoma><FONT size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D912422821-13022004><FONT face=3DArial=20
        color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT=20
        face=3DTahoma><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
        class=3D912422821-13022004>&nbsp;</SPAN>-----Original=20
        Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> jonat-admin@autox.team.net=20
        [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]<B>On Behalf Of=20
        </B>Bob<BR><B>Sent:</B> February 11, 2004 3:54 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
        jonat@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [JONAT] Re: Tour=20
        Badges<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D140065221-11022004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2>I am getting some preliminary pricing on all the items =
in that=20
        PDF file ... I'll keep you posted ... </FONT></SPAN><FONT=20
        size=3D2><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial=20
        color=3D#000080>Bob</FONT></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D140065221-11022004><FONT=20
        face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
        class=3D140065221-11022004>&nbsp;</SPAN>-----Original=20
        Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> jonat-admin@autox.team.net=20
        [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Fazal=20
        Cader<BR><B>Sent:</B> February 11, 2004 3:24 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
        jonat-EC/SC<BR><B>Subject:</B> [JONAT] Re: Tour=20
        Badges<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bob (et al)</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Let's get on with organising a =
car badge=20
        and a&nbsp;small numbered, ID&nbsp;sticker to put on the =
windscreen of=20
        the car.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Fazal</FONT></DIV>
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