[JONAT] Payment System NOT Ready

[Mark Stephenson]

Fazal,

Please note that I was not saying that there shouldn't be money
collected to defray costs. I have no problem for reimbursing for things
like the website and office supplies. In fact, I'm saving my receipts
for the 600+ mile drive this weekend in case there's money left over.
;-)

What I'm saying is that we shouldn't add the cost of trinkets that are
going to end up boxed up in a garage. If there are going to be 500
people participating at any given point along the route, $10 each would
yield $5000. Have we run up more than $5000 in expenses? None of you
guys who have put so much into this project should be out-of-pocket. 

I doubt that anyone in our club will object to $10, especially if it's
explained that it covers the cost of the office supplies, the website
where all the information is maintained and available for download, etc.
and whatever's left over to cover a portion of the expenses of the SCs
for things like the pre-drive (which I'm out of picket about $100 right
now.)

If we want hats, badges, license plates, shirts, or other goodies, let's
sell them on the separately, not bundle them in and drive up the cost.

Mark - AZ

-----Original Message-----
From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Fazal Cader
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 6:31 AM
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [JONAT] Payment System NOT Ready

Mark,

Unless you are the Earl of Goodwood and you have your own circuit, every
run that every club does in most countries are on public roads. If a
club levies a fee to participate in a run, it is for a sound reason and
usually to defray costs associated with that run. If any club member of
ours is insensitive enough to try and join the run and participate in
the planned fellowship without paying, there's nothing to stop him/her
doing that, he just doesn't get access to any of the organised
activities and if his/her faux pas is repeated, that person will be
quietly asked not to renew his/her membership. I must say it has never,
ever happened in our club and everyone is excruciatingly careful to 'do
the right thing'. Must be an Aussie thing, I guess.

I doubt if anyone and least of all JONAT considers charging participants
just for the hell of it! In our case, our biggest expense so far (apart
from
man-hours) has been the web site and we consider it fair that all
participants contribute towards the cost. Badges, caps, whatever are
incidental expenses but considered usual in any sort of organised event
such as JONAT. Of course we can dispense with them, and maybe we will,
but that will be our decision and it will be advised to everyone very
shortly.

Lastly, I regret if the additional expenses that your members are
projected to incur makes them unable to pay the JONAT fee, whatever it
finally is. (by the way, you have asked them?) So, by all means let them
drive on the public roads and accompany those that did pay. They will
just not be official JONAT participants.

Fazal Cader
Executive Committee, ISC - Australia
Jaguar Owner's North American Tour - www.jonat.org April 15, 2004 - July
4, 2004