[JONAT] Payment System NOT Ready

[Fazal Cader]

Cool. The drift is towards a minimal fee and very few, if any (this time,
anyway), trinkets to purchase.

Fazal

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Stephenson" <marks@jaguarot.com>
To: <jonat@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 7:21 AM
Subject: RE: [JONAT] Payment System NOT Ready


> Fazal,
>
> Please note that I was not saying that there shouldn't be money
> collected to defray costs. I have no problem for reimbursing for things
> like the website and office supplies. In fact, I'm saving my receipts
> for the 600+ mile drive this weekend in case there's money left over.
> ;-)
>
> What I'm saying is that we shouldn't add the cost of trinkets that are
> going to end up boxed up in a garage. If there are going to be 500
> people participating at any given point along the route, $10 each would
> yield $5000. Have we run up more than $5000 in expenses? None of you
> guys who have put so much into this project should be out-of-pocket.
>
> I doubt that anyone in our club will object to $10, especially if it's
> explained that it covers the cost of the office supplies, the website
> where all the information is maintained and available for download, etc.
> and whatever's left over to cover a portion of the expenses of the SCs
> for things like the pre-drive (which I'm out of picket about $100 right
> now.)
>
> If we want hats, badges, license plates, shirts, or other goodies, let's
> sell them on the separately, not bundle them in and drive up the cost.
>
> Mark - AZ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Fazal Cader
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 6:31 AM
> To: jonat@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [JONAT] Payment System NOT Ready
>
> Mark,
>
> Unless you are the Earl of Goodwood and you have your own circuit, every
> run that every club does in most countries are on public roads. If a
> club levies a fee to participate in a run, it is for a sound reason and
> usually to defray costs associated with that run. If any club member of
> ours is insensitive enough to try and join the run and participate in
> the planned fellowship without paying, there's nothing to stop him/her
> doing that, he just doesn't get access to any of the organised
> activities and if his/her faux pas is repeated, that person will be
> quietly asked not to renew his/her membership. I must say it has never,
> ever happened in our club and everyone is excruciatingly careful to 'do
> the right thing'. Must be an Aussie thing, I guess.
>
> I doubt if anyone and least of all JONAT considers charging participants
> just for the hell of it! In our case, our biggest expense so far (apart
> from
> man-hours) has been the web site and we consider it fair that all
> participants contribute towards the cost. Badges, caps, whatever are
> incidental expenses but considered usual in any sort of organised event
> such as JONAT. Of course we can dispense with them, and maybe we will,
> but that will be our decision and it will be advised to everyone very
> shortly.
>
> Lastly, I regret if the additional expenses that your members are
> projected to incur makes them unable to pay the JONAT fee, whatever it
> finally is. (by the way, you have asked them?) So, by all means let them
> drive on the public roads and accompany those that did pay. They will
> just not be official JONAT participants.
>
> Fazal Cader
> Executive Committee, ISC - Australia
> Jaguar Owner's North American Tour - www.jonat.org April 15, 2004 - July
> 4, 2004
>
>
>
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