[JONAT] Questions

Dr Gregory Andrachuk jonat@autox.team.net
Tue Feb 24 18:07:01 2004


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Good points, all, Jerry. Thanks. I am thinking more of local participants rather than those who plan this as a holiday.
                                    Gregory
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  From: Jerry Mouton 
  To: jonat@autox.team.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 4:54 PM
  Subject: Re: [JONAT] Questions


  Gregory,

  No, persona intelligenta.  Keep thinking!  These are good
  points.

  However, I think you have given a great answer -- the $47.00 
  is going to be way down in the noise of the cost of the trip.
  Unfortunately we have not come up with a way to get
  free food, lodging, or gasoline for entrants.  

  Do you think that $453 is a lot more easy to swallow than $500?
  And if you do two sectors or more, the $47.00 truly disappears.
  Further, at 35 cents a mile wear and tear, the "real" price
  is going to be much higher.  Anyone contemplating a trip like this
  has to budget for this sort of cost...don't they?  I suppose camping
  is an option, but you still have fuel costs...This will definitely be cheap
  by comparison to the Copperstate or other "Classic Rallyes".  

  But you can't travel for 5 days without paying.

  Jerry

  Jerry Mouton    '64 E Type FHC    "Laissez les bons temps rouler!"
        Jaguar Owner's North American Tour - http://jonat.org
        April 15, 2004 - July 4, 2004

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Dr Gregory Andrachuk 
    To: jonat@autox.team.net 
    Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 1:32 PM
    Subject: Re: [JONAT] Questions


    I seriously doubt that anyone is going to be willing to pay $47 plus $27 for the privilege of driving public roads, but I may be proved wrong. This has to be added to hotel costs, food costs, and in my sector, ferry costs, and ABFM entry fees. This means that anyone wanting to do the Victoria-Vancouver sector (and registering late, thus incurring the $27 courier fee) will spend an absolute minimum of $500 for this sector; if he/she continues to the next sector the registration cost will be spread between the two sectors, but food, accomodation and other costs continue. This whole thing is starting to look very, very expensive for the average potential participant. Still, I may be being wildly pessimistic. I hope so, given all the time that has gone into this. We are doing our best here to whip up enthusiasm, but the registration / courier fees won't help. I suppose I have made myself (once again) persona non grata. 
                                                            Gregory 
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Bob 
      To: jonat@autox.team.net 
      Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 12:44 PM
      Subject: RE: [JONAT] Questions


      It covers the cost of couriering the late registrations to the SC where the registrant starts (i.e. a separate package for late registrants, by overnight courier).  Cost could be as high as $50 if it is to go to Florida, or as little as $10 to go to Toronto, so I picked a likely average (note risk here!).

      Bob England
      '69 E-Type & '72 XJ6
      Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT)
      Route Coordinator
      http://www.jonat.org

      -----Original Message-----
      From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Dr Gregory Andrachuk
      Sent: February 24, 2004 2:39 PM
      To: jonat@autox.team.net
      Subject: Re: [JONAT] Questions


      What is the $27?????
          Gregory

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Good points, all, Jerry. Thanks. I am thinking more 
of local participants rather than those who plan this as a holiday.</FONT></DIV>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Gregory</FONT></DIV>
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  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=jerry@moutons.org href="mailto:jerry@moutons.org">Jerry Mouton</A> 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=jonat@autox.team.net 
  href="mailto:jonat@autox.team.net">jonat@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 24, 2004 4:54 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [JONAT] Questions</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT size=2>Gregory,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>No, persona intelligenta.&nbsp; Keep thinking!&nbsp; These 
  are good</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>points.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>However, I think you have given a great answer -- the $47.00 
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>is going to be way down in the noise of the cost of the 
  trip.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Unfortunately we have not come up with a way to 
  get</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>free food, lodging, or gasoline for entrants.&nbsp; 
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Do you think that $453 is a lot more easy to swallow than 
  $500?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>And if you do two sectors or more, the $47.00 truly 
  disappears.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Further, at 35 cents a mile wear and tear, the "real" 
  price</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>is going to be much higher.&nbsp; Anyone contemplating a 
  trip like this</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>has to budget for this sort of cost...don't they?&nbsp; I 
  suppose camping</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>is an option, but you still have fuel costs...This will 
  definitely be cheap</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>by comparison to the Copperstate or other "Classic 
  Rallyes".&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>But you can't travel for 5 days without paying.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Jerry</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Jerry Mouton&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; '64 E Type FHC&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Laissez 
  les bons temps rouler!"<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Jaguar Owner's North 
  American Tour - <A 
  href="http://jonat.org">http://jonat.org</A><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  April 15, 2004 - July 4, 2004<BR></DIV>
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    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV 
    style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
    <A title=v12-vdp@shaw.ca href="mailto:v12-vdp@shaw.ca">Dr Gregory 
    Andrachuk</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=jonat@autox.team.net 
    href="mailto:jonat@autox.team.net">jonat@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 24, 2004 1:32 
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [JONAT] Questions</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I seriously doubt that anyone is going to be 
    willing to pay $47 plus $27 for the privilege of driving public roads, but I 
    may be proved wrong. This has to be added to hotel costs, food costs, and in 
    my sector, ferry costs, and ABFM entry fees. This means that anyone wanting 
    to do the Victoria-Vancouver sector (and registering late, thus incurring 
    the $27 courier fee) will spend an absolute&nbsp;minimum of $500 for this 
    sector; if he/she continues to the next sector the registration cost will be 
    spread between the two sectors, but food, accomodation and other costs 
    continue. This whole thing is starting to look very, very expensive for the 
    average potential participant. Still, I may be being wildly pessimistic. I 
    hope so, given all the time that has gone into this. We are doing our best 
    here to whip up enthusiasm, but the registration / courier fees won't help. 
    I suppose I have made myself (once again) persona non grata. </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
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    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
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    Gregory</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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      style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
      <A title=engl@accesscomm.ca href="mailto:engl@accesscomm.ca">Bob</A> 
</DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=jonat@autox.team.net 
      href="mailto:jonat@autox.team.net">jonat@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 24, 2004 
      12:44 PM</DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [JONAT] Questions</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT 
      face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=183454120-24022004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
      size=2>It covers the cost of couriering the late&nbsp;registrations to the 
      SC where the registrant starts&nbsp;(i.e. a separate package for late 
      registrants, by overnight courier).&nbsp; Cost could be as high as $50 if 
      it is to go to Florida, or as little as $10 to go to Toronto, so I picked 
      a likely average (note risk here!).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>
      <P><FONT size=2><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#008000>Bob 
      England<BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#008000 size=1>'69 E-Type &amp; 
      '72 XJ6<BR>Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT)<BR>Route 
      Coordinator<BR></FONT></STRONG></FONT><A 
      href="http://www.jonat.org/"><FONT face=Arial color=#008000 
      size=1><STRONG>http://www.jonat.org</STRONG></FONT></A></P></DIV>
      <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
      size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
      jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]<B>On Behalf 
      Of </B>Dr Gregory Andrachuk<BR><B>Sent:</B> February 24, 2004 2:39 
      PM<BR><B>To:</B> jonat@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [JONAT] 
      Questions<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What is the $27?????</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Gregory</FONT></DIV>
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