[JONAT] Questions
Bob
jonat@autox.team.net
Wed Feb 25 10:19:02 2004
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Re: [JONAT] QuestionsAs a business decision it's stupid, I know,
particularly as it's not something I cannot really afford, and the very best
scenario is breaking even. (Although maybe if there are any left over I can
sell them on eBay for $500 each !) If Sectors want to forward some seed
money to help out, that would be appreciated, but certainly not expected.
No, I just have to trust you guys to go out there and get 15 paying
registrants each... if we achieve this goal we will more than break even. I
lived out Gregory's way for 3 years and can't believe there are not 15
people who would join the Tour and pay. Our local club actually has 2
members out that way (about 1200 miles from my home), and I'm sure I could
coerce them to pay the $47, even if they decided not to joint the Tour.
I'm not too worried (ignorance is bliss!). I might ask in return for
putting in the seed money that my company be listed as a Tour sponsor (I
mentioned this to Fazal yesterday and I think he fell off his chair!)
Bob England
-----Original Message-----
From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Robert and Darlene Stevenson
Sent: February 25, 2004 10:58 AM
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [JONAT] Questions
Bob2/24/04 5:17 PMengl@accesscomm.ca
Bob,
I find it very disturbing when you talk about laying out $5,000 of your
own money when there is absolutely no way of knowing at this time how many
people will be willing to pay an entry fee. I sure hate to be a pessimist
but I'm afraid that I agree with Dr. Gregory that many may drive along but
few will be willing to pay.
Bob Michigan
Brad
"Local Jaguar Club members would be driving in the tour for free while the
SC's would have to pay even though they did all the work to get this going
" - I have a problem with this too to be honest - I would rather have an MG
type person on the tour willing to pay his meagre share of the costs of
organizing the tour, than some guy in a Jaguar who is freeloading on the
backs of all of us volunteers.
"A good portion of our membership monies will come from participants that
are in the local clubs - this may create a situation where we would not
reach the break even number due to all of the "exempt" drivers in this
scenario" - this would tick me off royally as I'm the guy who is likely
going to have to spring the $5,000 to pay for the registration packages
until the money starts rolling (well trickling really) in.
Regarding the conference call, in our effort to keep costs down, can we
try this on Windows Messenger's voice service? Has anyone done this and
does it work? ( I tried it with Fazal last week and we must have been doing
something wrong - we got Skype to work, but Fazal does not think this works
in a conference mode).
Bob England
'69 E-Type & '72 XJ6
Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT)
Route Coordinator
http://www.jonat.org
-----Original Message-----
From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Brad Preiss
Sent: February 24, 2004 3:24 PM
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [JONAT] Questions
Only problem I have with this addendum is:
A. Local Jaguar Club members would be driving in the tour for free while
the SC's would have to pay even though they did all the work to get this
going -
B. A good portion of our membership monies will come from participants
that are in the local clubs - this may create a situation where we would not
reach the break even number due to all of the "exempt" drivers in this
scenario.
The rest of the fee structure looks great -
Regarding the Rout Extensions in the Mid Atlantic Regions:
Bob - I think we need to talk about the extension of the mid Atlantic legs
in "real time" ASAP. Would it be possible set up a call for the NJ/Philly,
Richmond, Georgia, SC's as well as myself - we could probably resolve the
gap fairly quickly -
Brad
-----Original Message-----
From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Dr Gregory Andrachuk
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 1:07 PM
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Subject: [JONAT] Questions
received.
Bob: to clarify regarding the fees and registration packages:
1) the SC receives the packages by courier: please tell me that these
will NOT come to Canada with Customs Duty owing! How many packages will be
sent?
2) the SC distributes these packages ONLY to those people who has
specifically registered in HIS sector.
3) if anyone wants to register during the sector, the SC collects the
$40 CDN + $7 and forwards it to?
4) local Jaguar club members will not have to register to drive in
the sector, but by the same token will not receive any registration
materials
Can you comment on the above?
Gregory
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob <mailto:engl@accesscomm.ca>
To: jonat-chat@autox.team.net
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 9:51 AM
Subject: [JONAT] TEST
One of the group noted that he had not been receiving e-mails for a
few days, so I'm just sending this out as a test.
Let me know if you don't get this e-mail (just kidding! - let me know
if this email arrives OK). The SC's and ASC's should get two copies of this
email, and the participants should get one.
Bob England
'69 E-Type & '72 XJ6
Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT)
Route Coordinator
http://www.jonat.org
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not too worried (ignorance is bliss!). I might ask in return for =
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<P><FONT size=3D2><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#000080>Bob=20
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[mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Robert and =
Darlene=20
Stevenson<BR><B>Sent:</B> February 25, 2004 10:58 AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
jonat@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [JONAT]=20
Questions<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT>Bob2/24/04 5:17=20
PMengl@accesscomm.ca<BR>Bob, <BR> I =
find it=20
very disturbing when you talk about laying out $5,000 of your own money =
when=20
there is absolutely no way of knowing at this time how many people will =
be=20
willing to pay an entry fee. I sure hate to be a pessimist but I'm =
afraid that I=20
agree with Dr. Gregory that many may drive along but few will be willing =
to=20
pay.<BR>  =
; =
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nbsp; Bob=20
Michigan <BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><FONT=20
face=3DArial>Brad<BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff><FONT=20
size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial>"Local Jaguar Club members would be =
driving in the=20
tour for free while the SC's would have to pay even though they did =
all the=20
work to get this going " - I have a problem with this too to be honest =
- I=20
would rather have an MG type person on the tour willing to pay his =
meagre=20
share of the costs of organizing the tour, than some guy in a Jaguar =
who is=20
freeloading on the backs of all of us=20
volunteers.<BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT =
size=3D2><FONT=20
face=3DArial>"A good portion of our membership monies will come from=20
participants that are in the local clubs - this may create a situation =
where=20
we would not reach the break even number due to all of the "exempt" =
drivers in=20
this scenario" - this would tick me off royally as I'm the guy who is =
likely=20
going to have to spring the $5,000 to pay for the registration =
packages until=20
the money starts rolling (well trickling really) in.=20
<BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT =
size=3D2><FONT=20
face=3DArial>Regarding the conference call, in our effort to keep =
costs down,=20
can we try this on Windows Messenger's voice service? Has anyone =
done=20
this and does it work? ( I tried it with Fazal last week and we =
must=20
have been doing something wrong - we got Skype to work, but Fazal does =
not=20
think this works in a conference mode).<BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#008000><B>Bob=20
England<BR></B></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
color=3D#008000><B><FONT size=3D1>'69 E-Type & '72 XJ6<BR>Jaguar =
Owner's North=20
American Tour (JONAT)<BR>Route=20
Coordinator<BR>http://www.jonat.org<BR></FONT></B></FONT></FONT><FONT=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
jonat-admin@autox.team.net=20
[mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Brad=20
Preiss<BR><B>Sent:</B> February 24, 2004 3:24 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
jonat@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [JONAT] =
Questions<BR><BR><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT face=3DArial>Only problem I have with this =
addendum=20
is:<BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT =
size=3D2><FONT=20
face=3DArial>A. Local Jaguar Club members would be driving in the tour =
for free=20
while the SC's would have to pay even though they did all the work to =
get this=20
going - <BR>B. A good portion of our membership monies will come from=20
participants that are in the local clubs - this may create a situation =
where=20
we would not reach the break even number due to all of the "exempt" =
drivers in=20
this scenario.<BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT =
size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial>The rest of the fee structure looks great =
-=20
<BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR><BR><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT =
size=3D2><FONT=20
face=3DArial>Regarding the Rout Extensions in the Mid Atlantic =
Regions:<BR>Bob -=20
I think we need to talk about the extension of the mid Atlantic legs =
in "real=20
time" ASAP. Would it be possible set up a call for the =
NJ/Philly,=20
Richmond, Georgia, SC's as well as myself - we could probably resolve =
the gap=20
fairly quickly - <BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff><FONT=20
size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial>Brad<BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR><BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]<B>On =
Behalf=20
Of </B>Dr Gregory Andrachuk<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 24, =
2004 1:07=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> jonat@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> [JONAT]=20
Questions<BR><BR><FONT =
face=3DArial>received.<BR> Bob:=20
to clarify regarding the fees and registration=20
packages:<BR> 1) the SC receives the packages by =
courier:=20
please tell me that these will NOT come to Canada with Customs Duty =
owing!=20
How many packages will be sent?<BR> 2) the SC =
distributes=20
these packages ONLY to those people who has specifically registered =
in HIS=20
sector.<BR> 3) if anyone wants to register during =
the=20
sector, the SC collects the $40 CDN + $7 and forwards it=20
to?<BR> 4) local Jaguar club members will not have =
to=20
register to drive in the sector, but by the same token will not =
receive any=20
registration =
materials<BR> <BR> Can you=20
comment on the=20
=
above?<BR> &nb=
sp; &nbs=
p; Gregory<BR></FONT></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE>----- Original Message ----- <BR><B>From:</B> Bob=20
<mailto:engl@accesscomm.ca> <BR><B>To:</B>=20
jonat-chat@autox.team.net <BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 24, =
2004 9:51=20
AM<BR><B>Subject:</B> [JONAT] TEST<BR><BR><FONT size=3D2><FONT=20
face=3DArial>One of the group noted that he had not been receiving =
e-mails=20
for a few days, so I'm just sending this out as a=20
test.<BR></FONT></FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial>Let =
me know if=20
you don't get this e-mail (just kidding! - let me know if this =
email=20
arrives OK). The SC's and ASC's should get two copies of =
this email,=20
and the participants should get one.<BR><FONT =
color=3D#008000><B>Bob=20
England<BR></B></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
color=3D#008000><B><FONT size=3D1>'69 E-Type & '72 =
XJ6<BR>Jaguar Owner's=20
North American Tour (JONAT)<BR>Route=20
=
Coordinator<BR>http://www.jonat.org<BR></FONT></B></FONT></FONT><BR></BLO=
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