[JONAT] Driver's Fee plus late fee for express shipping
Robert and Darlene Stevenson
jonat@autox.team.net
Wed Feb 25 14:38:14 2004
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Bob2/25/04 3:53 PMengl@accesscomm.ca
I've expressed concern several times whether any Michigan people would pay
to drive through their own state. I must be the same age as Dr. Gregory as =
I
too have trouble with the fees and I am very afraid that if the costs do ru=
n
$5000 someone is going to take a major financial hit!
Bob
Mich
Gregory ... thanks for your frankness ... anyone else feel this way ?
-----Original Message-----
From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Dr Gregory Andrachuk
Sent: February 25, 2004 2:27 PM
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [JONAT] Driver's Fee plus late fee for express shipping
I second what Dave has said, judging from the (little) interest we have bee=
n
able to generate, despite our best efforts. I am really having trouble with
the administrative complications of fees. I doubt that many SC=B4s would have
agreed to do what they are doing if the present (planned) fee, fee
collection, package distribution arrangement were known ahead of time. As a
SC, I want to have fun too! The way it is set up, I will be spending a good
deal of time on administration. Obviously, at this late date, I will
continue as planned. But I still have trouble with the whole issue of fees.
Is it just my age that makes me seem cranky about this? For the record, I
dislike being negative about anything, so even having to express these very
strong reservations makes me uncomfortable.
Gregory
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----- Original Message -----
From: D & B Cooke <mailto:dbcooke@shaw.ca>
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [JONAT] Driver's Fee plus late fee for express shipping
While I understand that there are various costs involved with JONAT, from
the participant's perspective those costs are not really apparent. So, the
local Jag club member who decides that he would like to support his Club an=
d
other Jag enthusiasts by participating in JONAT events, which are on a "use=
r
pay" basis, is required to pay $47 Cdn in exchange for a JONAT license
plate. I tell you that this
will be a very tough sell. And speaking frankly, I can also tell you that
if I weren't an ASC, I certainly wouldn't participate. JONAT doesn't offer
anything except a license plaque and an opportunity to meet with other Jag
owners - I can get that through my local club. Why would I pay $47?? Am I
missing something here???
Oh, by the way, in our sector there is also the Van Dusen ABFM fee which is
levied against all entrants to the tune of $35. Charging this fee, is very
much like a theatre charging an entertainer to perform in front of the
audience from whom they have charged admission as well. Reportedly the ABF=
M
is Van Dusen Garden's busiest day. Without the British Cars at Van Dusen
Gardens would Van Dusen draw such a crowd? - and yet we, "the performers",
are charged an entry fee!! Something is wrong! It is like paying extra for
a trendy jacket that has a Nike logo on it so that you can have the
"priviledge" of advertising for that company. Nike should cut the prices o=
f
their jackets in exchange for you being a walking advertisement.
Thank you ....Rant over. And yes, I will pay the $47 and I'll probably
covet my JONAT license plate "thingy" in the years to come. But don't be
surprised if there is little local interest in JONAT
Dave Cooke
Assistant Sector Coordinator
Victoria Vancouver Sector
www.members.shaw.ca/vic-van <http://www.members.shaw.ca/vic-van>
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Bob2/25/04 3:53 PMengl@accesscomm.ca<BR>
I've expressed concern several times whether any Michigan people would pay =
to drive through their own state. I must be the same age as Dr. Gregory as I=
too have trouble with the fees and I am very afraid that if the costs do ru=
n $5000 someone is going to take a major financial hit!<BR>
&n=
bsp; =
&nbs=
p; &n=
bsp; =
Bob =
Mich<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE>Gregory ... thanks for your frankness ... anyone else feel this=
way ?<BR>
<BR>
<FONT SIZE=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<BR>
<B>From:</B> jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]=
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Dr Gregory Andrachuk<BR>
<B>Sent:</B> February 25, 2004 2:27 PM<BR>
<B>To:</B> jonat@autox.team.net<BR>
<B>Subject:</B> Re: [JONAT] Driver's Fee plus late fee for express shipping=
<BR>
<BR>
I second what Dave has said, judging from the (little) interest we have bee=
n able to generate, despite our best efforts. I am really having trouble wit=
h the administrative complications of fees. I doubt that many SC=B4s would hav=
e agreed to do what they are doing if the present (planned) fee, fee collect=
ion, package distribution arrangement were known ahead of time. As a SC, I w=
ant to have fun too! The way it is set up, I will be spending a good deal of=
time on administration. Obviously, at this late date, I will continue as pl=
anned. But I still have trouble with the whole issue of fees. Is it just my =
age that makes me seem cranky about this? For the record, I dislike being ne=
gative about anything, so even having to express these very strong reservati=
ons makes me uncomfortable.<BR>
&n=
bsp; =
&nbs=
p; Gregory<BR>
&n=
bsp; <BR>
</FONT><BLOCKQUOTE>----- Original Message ----- <BR>
<B>From:</B> D & B Cooke <mailto:dbcooke@shaw.ca> <BR>
<B>To:</B> jonat@autox.team.net <BR>
<B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 25, 2004 10:10 AM<BR>
<B>Subject:</B> Re: [JONAT] Driver's Fee plus late fee for express shipping=
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
While I understand that there are various costs involved with JONAT, from t=
he participant's perspective those costs are not really apparent. So, the lo=
cal Jag club member who decides that he would like to support his Club and o=
ther Jag enthusiasts by participating in JONAT events, which are on a "=
user pay" basis, is required to pay $47 Cdn in exchange for a JONAT lic=
ense plate. I tell you that this <BR>
will be a very tough sell. And speaking frankly, I can also tell you =
that if I weren't an ASC, I certainly wouldn't participate. JONAT does=
n't offer anything except a license plaque and an opportunity to meet with o=
ther Jag owners - I can get that through my local club. Why would I pay $47?=
? Am I missing something here???<BR>
<BR>
Oh, by the way, in our sector there is also the Van Dusen ABFM fee which is=
levied against all entrants to the tune of $35. Charging this fee, is very =
much like a theatre charging an entertainer to perform in front of the audie=
nce from whom they have charged admission as well. Reportedly the ABFM=
is Van Dusen Garden's busiest day. Without the British Cars at Van Du=
sen Gardens would Van Dusen draw such a crowd? - and yet we, "the perfo=
rmers", are charged an entry fee!! Something is wrong! It is like=
paying extra for a trendy jacket that has a Nike logo on it so that y=
ou can have the "priviledge" of advertising for that company. &nbs=
p;Nike should cut the prices of their jackets in exchange for you being a wa=
lking advertisement.<BR>
<BR>
Thank you ....Rant over. And yes, I will pay the $47 and I'll p=
robably covet my JONAT license plate "thingy" in the years to come=
. But don't be surprised if there is little local interest in JONAT <BR>
<BR>
Dave Cooke<BR>
Assistant Sector Coordinator<BR>
Victoria Vancouver Sector<BR>
www.members.shaw.ca/vic-van <http://www.members.shaw.ca/vic-van> <BR>
<BR>
<BR>
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