[JONAT] Controversy 101

Dr Gregory Andrachuk jonat@autox.team.net
Mon Jan 12 21:36:02 2004


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I suppose I will be the lone curmudgeon again, but I do NOT agree. =
Either this is a Jaguar tour, or it is a British car tour. If it is a =
British car tour, then of course all British car enthusiasts are =
welcome, but this then removes much of the impetus for us Jaguar people =
to take on the burden of organisation; it also removes much of the =
pleasure of travelling with soul-mates; and it removes much of the basis =
for support from Jaguar-related organisations (and it should be said =
that there are frequent runs by other marque clubs and organisations. It =
was a JAGUAR run that was envisioned.) Craig Talbot has mentioned a =
salient point: there is no way of limiting the number of Marque X cars =
that participate if it is phrased this way. I see no rationale for this =
at all. I vote NAY. A last minute, emergency use of another vehicle by a =
Jaguar owner is one thing (an undoubtedly there will be some of these); =
but an open invitation to other British car owners to participate is =
quite another thing. And then, why discriminate against Italian car =
owners? Bob, you can come out now.
                                                Gregory   =20


----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Bob=20
  To: JONAT MailList=20
  Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 3:05 PM
  Subject: [JONAT] Controversy 101


  As promised, I'm throwing out a bit of controversy today.

  Check out=20
  http://jonat.org/bob/JONAT_information_whocanparticipate.htm

  I know a few of you had some pretty strong feelings about this a few =
months ago, on both sides of the coin.  I'd like to revisit it and put =
it to bed after hearing everyone's input, so we can make it an official =
JONAT policy.  Note that this is on the website but has no links to it =
(and will have none until a final decision on the policy is made) - i.e. =
the only people with access are those on this list.

  Now I'm going to run away and hide until the flames blow over ...
  Bob England
  '69 E-Type & '72 XJ6
  Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT)
  Route Coordinator
  http://www.jonat.org


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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I suppose I will be the lone curmudgeon again, but 
I do NOT agree. Either this is a Jaguar tour, or it is a British car tour. If it 
is a British car tour, then of course all British car enthusiasts are welcome, 
but this then removes much of the impetus for us Jaguar people to take on the 
burden of organisation; it also removes much of the pleasure of travelling with 
soul-mates; and it removes much of the&nbsp;basis for support from 
Jaguar-related&nbsp;organisations (and it should be said that there are frequent 
runs by other marque clubs and organisations. It was a JAGUAR run that was 
envisioned.)&nbsp;Craig Talbot&nbsp;has mentioned a salient point: there is no 
way of limiting the number of Marque X cars that participate if it is phrased 
this way. I see no rationale for this at all. I vote NAY. A last minute, 
emergency use of another vehicle by a Jaguar owner is one thing (an undoubtedly 
there will be some of these); but an open invitation to other British car owners 
to participate is quite another thing. And then, why discriminate against 
Italian car owners? Bob, you can come out now.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=engl@accesscomm.ca href="mailto:engl@accesscomm.ca">Bob</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=jonat@autox.team.net 
  href="mailto:jonat@autox.team.net">JONAT MailList</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 12, 2004 3:05 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [JONAT] Controversy 101</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=652190023-12012004>As promised, I'm 
  throwing out a bit of controversy today.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=652190023-12012004></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=652190023-12012004>Check out 
  </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=652190023-12012004><A 
  href="http://jonat.org/bob/JONAT_information_whocanparticipate.htm">http://jonat.org/bob/JONAT_information_whocanparticipate.htm</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=652190023-12012004></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=652190023-12012004>I know a few of 
  you had some pretty strong feelings about this a few months ago, on both sides 
  of the coin.&nbsp; I'd like to revisit it and put it to bed after hearing 
  everyone's input, so we can make it an official JONAT policy.&nbsp; <FONT 
  face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=652190023-12012004>Note that this is on the 
  website but has no links to it (and will have none until&nbsp;a final decision 
  on the policy is made) - i.e. the only people with access are those on this 
  list.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=652190023-12012004></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=652190023-12012004>Now I'm going to 
  run away and hide until the flames blow over ...</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P><FONT size=2><STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=#008000>Bob 
  England<BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#008000 size=1>'69 E-Type &amp; '72 
  XJ6<BR>Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT)<BR>Route 
  Coordinator<BR></FONT></STRONG></FONT><A href="http://www.jonat.org/"><FONT 
  face=Arial color=#008000 
  size=1><STRONG>http://www.jonat.org</STRONG></FONT></A></P></DIV>
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