[JONAT] Controversy 101

Fazal Cader jonat@autox.team.net
Mon Jan 26 14:27:01 2004


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Side windows, I think, and not the windscreen. Personally, putting a =
reasonable sized pic on my windscreen would affect my field of vision =
and may not be considered safe.

Fazal
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Dr Gregory Andrachuk=20
  To: jonat@autox.team.net=20
  Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 2:43 AM
  Subject: Re: [JONAT] Controversy 101


  Something for the windscreen, that plastic film that clings - that =
will not mark the car, but does indeed set it apart.
                                              Gregory
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Mark Stephenson=20
    To: jonat@autox.team.net=20
    Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 6:41 AM
    Subject: RE: [JONAT] Controversy 101


    I like that. Tape it up on a window somewhere. What does everyone =
else think?

    Mark



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      From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net =
[mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob
      Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 7:21 AM
      To: jonat@autox.team.net
      Subject: RE: [JONAT] Controversy 101


      Mark ... how about something simpler to administrate - if they are =
not driving a Jaguar they have to bring a copy of a picture of their =
Jaguar and bring it on the Tour ... Bob

      -----Original Message-----
      From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net =
[mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Mark Stephenson
      Sent: January 26, 2004 2:38 AM
      To: jonat@autox.team.net
      Subject: RE: [JONAT] Controversy 101


      ...And my thought was that as long as they owned a Jaguar they =
could join us, but the Jaguars get to travel together in a pack and the =
non-Jags had to lead, follow, or get out of the way.

      So, I think it's almost unanimous that it should be restricted to =
Jaguar owners, the question is how much leeway to grant owners who won't =
be driving their cars. As I said earlier, I don't thing the non-Jag =
driving owners will be that interested in joining us for that many =
sectors, so I think their numbers will be small compared to =
Jaguar-driving owners. But, as owners, I think they'll have something in =
common with us and will be valuable additions.=20

      Another factor to consider is that we aren't going to be able to =
prove any of this anyway. The guy's decades old resto project could be =
something that he intended to have done, and he worked up to the last =
minute and just didn't quite make it. What are we going to do, make them =
send us pictures?=20

      I think we should make a statement on the entry form and website =
that we would hope entrants would participate in their Jaguar, but if =
circumstances prevent that, they can apply for inclusion in another car. =
We make them write up a short essay on what they own, why they aren't =
driving it, and what they will be driving. Then we can review them and =
accept or reject.

      Mark



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        From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net =
[mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob
        Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 4:15 PM
        To: jonat@autox.team.net
        Subject: RE: [JONAT] Controversy 101


        OK ... I've run away and come back now that the heat has died =
down ... if I follow the gist of this thread (with a little bit of =
biased personal interpretation) ... the majority thinking is "Jaguar =
Enthusiasts" driving preferably their Jaguars, but alternatively =
whatever they want (such as a MGB-uar or Jeep-uar).  Am I on track here, =
or should I run away again ...

        Bob England

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Side windows, I think, and not the =
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Personally, putting a reasonable sized pic on my windscreen would affect =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Fazal</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 27, 2004 =
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Controversy=20
101</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Something for the windscreen, that =
plastic film=20
  that clings - that will not mark the car, but does indeed set it=20
  apart.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =

  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
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  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
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  &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Gregory</FONT></DIV>
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    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dmarks@jaguarot.com =
href=3D"mailto:marks@jaguarot.com">Mark=20
    Stephenson</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Djonat@autox.team.net=20
    href=3D"mailto:jonat@autox.team.net">jonat@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 26, =
2004 6:41=20
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [JONAT] =
Controversy=20
    101</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D062503914-26012004><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
    color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I like that. Tape it up on a window =
somewhere. What=20
    does everyone else think?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D062503914-26012004><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
    color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D062503914-26012004><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
    color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Mark</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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      <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
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      <HR tabIndex=3D-1>
      <FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> <A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net">jonat-admin@autox.team.net</A>=
=20
      [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net] <B>On Behalf Of=20
      </B>Bob<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 26, 2004 7:21 =
AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:jonat@autox.team.net">jonat@autox.team.net</A><BR><B>Subje=
ct:</B>=20
      RE: [JONAT] Controversy 101<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
      <DIV></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=3D635280313-26012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
      size=3D2>Mark ... how about something simpler to administrate - if =
they are=20
      not driving a Jaguar they have to bring a copy of a picture of =
their=20
      Jaguar and bring it on the Tour ... </FONT></SPAN><FONT=20
      size=3D2><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial=20
      color=3D#008000>Bob</FONT></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
      size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
      jonat-admin@autox.team.net =
[mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]<B>On Behalf=20
      Of </B>Mark Stephenson<BR><B>Sent:</B> January 26, 2004 2:38=20
      AM<BR><B>To:</B> jonat@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
[JONAT]=20
      Controversy 101<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D366312408-26012004><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
      color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>...And my thought was that as long as =
they owned a=20
      Jaguar they could join us, but the Jaguars get to travel together =
in a=20
      pack and the non-Jags had to lead, follow, or get out of the=20
      way.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D366312408-26012004><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
      color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D366312408-26012004><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
      color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>So, I think it's almost unanimous that it =
should be=20
      restricted to Jaguar owners, the question is how much leeway to =
grant=20
      owners who won't be driving their cars. As I said earlier, I don't =
thing=20
      the non-Jag driving owners will be that interested in joining us =
for that=20
      many sectors, so I think their numbers will be small compared to=20
      Jaguar-driving owners. But, as owners, I think they'll have =
something in=20
      common with us and will be valuable additions. =
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D366312408-26012004><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
      color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D366312408-26012004><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
      color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Another factor to consider is that we =
aren't going to=20
      be able to prove any of this anyway. The guy's decades old resto =
project=20
      could be something that he intended to have done, and he worked up =
to the=20
      last minute and just didn't quite make it. What are we going to =
do, make=20
      them send us pictures? </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D366312408-26012004><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
      color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D366312408-26012004><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
      color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I think we should make a statement on the =
entry form=20
      and website that we would hope entrants would participate in their =
Jaguar,=20
      but if circumstances prevent that,&nbsp;they can apply for =
inclusion in=20
      another car.&nbsp;We make them write up a short essay on what they =
own,=20
      why they aren't driving it, and what they will be driving. Then we =
can=20
      review them and accept or reject.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D366312408-26012004><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
      color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D366312408-26012004><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
      color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Mark</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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        <FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> =
jonat-admin@autox.team.net=20
        [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net] <B>On Behalf Of=20
        </B>Bob<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 25, 2004 4:15 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
        jonat@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [JONAT] Controversy=20
        101<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
        <DIV></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=3D308100023-25012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
        size=3D2>OK ... I've run away and come back now that the heat =
has died=20
        down ... if I follow the gist of this thread (with a little bit =
of=20
        biased personal interpretation) ... the majority thinking is =
"Jaguar=20
        Enthusiasts" driving preferably their Jaguars, but alternatively =

        whatever they want (such as a MGB-uar or Jeep-uar).&nbsp; Am I =
on track=20
        here, or should I run away again ...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>
        <P><FONT size=3D2><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#008000>Bob =

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