[JONAT] Controversy 102 ---> was Controversy 101
Steve Clark
jonat@autox.team.net
Tue Jan 27 12:45:02 2004
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Flame suit on, Kevlar Suit on, earplugs in......
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I agree with the cliquism, elitism concern and I think we are
overworking this.....as far as I am concerned, anyone that want to join
the procession must de facto be a fan of the Jag...if a non Jag owner
wants to join in the spirit of things, hey the more the merrier....if
they are not driving a Jag, I suggest we encourage them to follow the
procession rather than inserting themselves amongst the Cats but there
is no way we can really police it in any event. I'd like to think of it
as more a collection of groupies trailing us (I always wanted to be a
rock star with groupies) :-). I think most would understand and honour
this type of request.....hey we could even take it one step further and
give them a static cling decal saying "I wish I was a Jag!"
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Let the shunning begin!
-----Original Message-----
From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ian Bailey
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 8:30 AM
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [JONAT] Controversy 102 ---> was Controversy 101
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As Bob has stated in my Sector (Saskatchewan) we have a Jag club
but some members presently do not have a Jag that can go on this trip.
Though I think they are all trying to get a Jag, except our one Alpha
owner who we forgive (by forgive I mean put up with because he buys
coffee sometimes) mostly because he is Italian and we like him anyway.
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However, I have said previously that as long as we promote
Jaguars, make it a "Jaguar" tour, get Jaguar sponsorship, etc. I see NO
PROBLEM if a Jag club member joins us on this sector with his present
non-Jaguar car (except the Alpha). This does not need to be advertised
nor over discussed. It simply means a fellow car-lover and club member
who is helping us out may come along. AND there will be no negative
impact on the Tour, in fact, quite the opposite.=20
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That being said:....I would limit non-Jag cars completely to
only Club members that are helping out in the organization etc. I see no
reason to accept any non-Jaguar on the Tour who is not a member of the
Sector 's sponsoring car club or organization.
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So I seem to fit in with all the other emails on this topic as I
say we can have non-Jag cars and we can not have non-Jag cars. I think I
will now run for some office somewhere.
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----- Original Message -----=20
From: Bob <mailto:engl@accesscomm.ca> =20
To: jonat@autox.team.net=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 7:28 AM
Subject: [JONAT] Controversy 102 ---> was Controversy
101
For my part I am quite strongly opposed to the "Non-Jags
at the rear of the convoy approach" that has been discussed over he last
bit. One, it's a logistical PITA for the organizers. Two, it promotes
clique-ism on the Tour.
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There likely won't be all that many non-Jags anyway.
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Anyone else feel the same (or do I run away and hide
again!).
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Bob England
'69 E-Type & '72 XJ6
Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT)
Route Coordinator
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D322093619-27012004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>I=20
agree with the cliquism, elitism concern and I think we are overworking=20
this.....as far as I am concerned, anyone that want to join the =
procession must=20
de facto be a fan of the Jag...if a non Jag owner wants to join in the =
spirit of=20
things, hey the more the merrier....if they are not driving a Jag, I =
suggest we=20
encourage them to follow the procession rather than inserting themselves =
amongst=20
the Cats but there is no way we can really police it in any event. =
I'd=20
like to think of it as more a collection of groupies trailing =
us (I=20
always wanted to be a rock star with groupies) :-). I think most =
would=20
understand and honour this type of request.....hey we could even take it =
one=20
step further and give them a static cling decal saying "I wish I =
was a=20
Jag!"</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D322093619-27012004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D322093619-27012004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Let=20
the shunning begin!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net] <B>On =
Behalf Of=20
</B>Ian Bailey<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 27, 2004 8:30 =
AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
jonat@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [JONAT] Controversy 102 =
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was Controversy 101<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As Bob has stated in my Sector =
(Saskatchewan) we=20
have a Jag club but some members presently do not have a Jag that can =
go on=20
this trip. Though I think they are all trying to get a Jag, except our =
one=20
Alpha owner who we forgive (by forgive I mean put up with because he =
buys=20
coffee sometimes) mostly because he is Italian and we like him=20
anyway.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>However, I have said previously that =
as long as=20
we promote Jaguars, make it a "Jaguar" tour, get Jaguar sponsorship, =
etc. I=20
see NO PROBLEM if a Jag club member joins us on this sector with his =
present=20
non-Jaguar car (except the Alpha). This does not need to be advertised =
nor=20
over discussed. It simply means a fellow car-lover and club =
member who is=20
helping us out may come along. AND there will be no negative impact on =
the=20
Tour, in fact, quite the opposite. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That being said:....I would =
limit non-Jag=20
cars completely to only Club members that are helping out in the=20
organization etc. I see no reason to accept any non-Jaguar on the Tour =
who is=20
not a member of the Sector 's sponsoring car club or=20
organization.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So I seem to fit in with all the =
other emails on=20
this topic as I say we <STRONG><EM>can</EM></STRONG> have non-Jag cars =
and we=20
<STRONG><EM>can not</EM></STRONG> have non-Jag cars. I think I =
will now=20
run for some office somewhere.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=3Dengl@accesscomm.ca =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Djonat@autox.team.net=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 27, =
2004 7:28=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [JONAT] Controversy =
102=20
---> was Controversy 101</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D784291113-27012004>For my part I am quite strongly opposed =
to the=20
"Non-Jags at the rear of the convoy approach" that has been =
discussed over=20
he last bit. One, it's a logistical PITA for the organizers. =
Two, it=20
promotes clique-ism on the Tour.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D784291113-27012004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D784291113-27012004>There likely won't be all that many =
non-Jags=20
anyway.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D784291113-27012004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D784291113-27012004>Anyone else feel the same (or do I run =
away and=20
hide again!).</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P><FONT size=3D2><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#008000>Bob=20
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E-Type & '72=20
XJ6<BR>Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT)<BR>Route=20
Coordinator<BR></FONT></STRONG></FONT><A =
href=3D"http://www.jonat.org/"><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3D#008000=20
size=3D1><STRONG>http://www.jonat.org</STRONG></FONT></A></P></DIV>
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