[JONAT] Controversy 102 ---> was Controversy 101
Steve Clark
jonat@autox.team.net
Tue Jan 27 20:35:01 2004
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You gotta move north...I've had women jump outta their cars at red
lights to take a picture of the E
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From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Fazal Cader
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 8:20 PM
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [JONAT] Controversy 102 ---> was Controversy 101
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Its a pity that most Jag groupies are greying, elderly men
somewhat outside the parameters of what society would accept as
pretty/sexy/attractive. (I think I'll leave my Viagra/Trojan travel pack
at home for this one)
:-)
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Fazal
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From: Steve Clark <mailto:stephen_clark@transcanada.com>
To: jonat@autox.team.net=20
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 6:43 AM
Subject: RE: [JONAT] Controversy 102 ---> was
Controversy 101
Flame suit on, Kevlar Suit on, earplugs in......
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I agree with the cliquism, elitism concern and I think
we are overworking this.....as far as I am concerned, anyone that want
to join the procession must de facto be a fan of the Jag...if a non Jag
owner wants to join in the spirit of things, hey the more the
merrier....if they are not driving a Jag, I suggest we encourage them to
follow the procession rather than inserting themselves amongst the Cats
but there is no way we can really police it in any event. I'd like to
think of it as more a collection of groupies trailing us (I always
wanted to be a rock star with groupies) :-). I think most would
understand and honour this type of request.....hey we could even take it
one step further and give them a static cling decal saying "I wish I was
a Jag!"
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Let the shunning begin!
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From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ian Bailey
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 8:30 AM
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [JONAT] Controversy 102 ---> was
Controversy 101
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As Bob has stated in my Sector (Saskatchewan) we
have a Jag club but some members presently do not have a Jag that can go
on this trip. Though I think they are all trying to get a Jag, except
our one Alpha owner who we forgive (by forgive I mean put up with
because he buys coffee sometimes) mostly because he is Italian and we
like him anyway.
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However, I have said previously that as long as
we promote Jaguars, make it a "Jaguar" tour, get Jaguar sponsorship,
etc. I see NO PROBLEM if a Jag club member joins us on this sector with
his present non-Jaguar car (except the Alpha). This does not need to be
advertised nor over discussed. It simply means a fellow car-lover and
club member who is helping us out may come along. AND there will be no
negative impact on the Tour, in fact, quite the opposite.=20
=20
That being said:....I would limit non-Jag cars
completely to only Club members that are helping out in the organization
etc. I see no reason to accept any non-Jaguar on the Tour who is not a
member of the Sector 's sponsoring car club or organization.
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So I seem to fit in with all the other emails on
this topic as I say we can have non-Jag cars and we can not have non-Jag
cars. I think I will now run for some office somewhere.
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From: Bob <mailto:engl@accesscomm.ca> =20
To: jonat@autox.team.net=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 7:28 AM
Subject: [JONAT] Controversy 102 --->
was Controversy 101
For my part I am quite strongly opposed
to the "Non-Jags at the rear of the convoy approach" that has been
discussed over he last bit. One, it's a logistical PITA for the
organizers. Two, it promotes clique-ism on the Tour.
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There likely won't be all that many
non-Jags anyway.
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Anyone else feel the same (or do I run
away and hide again!).
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Bob England
'69 E-Type & '72 XJ6
Jaguar Owner's North American Tour
(JONAT)
Route Coordinator
http://www.jonat.org
<http://www.jonat.org/>=20
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jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net] <B>On =
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</B>Fazal Cader<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 27, 2004 8:20=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Its a pity that most Jag groupies are =
greying,=20
elderly men somewhat outside the parameters of what society would =
accept as=20
pretty/sexy/attractive. (I think I'll leave my Viagra/Trojan travel =
pack at=20
home for this one)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>:-)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Fazal</FONT></DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dstephen_clark@transcanada.com=20
href=3D"mailto:stephen_clark@transcanada.com">Steve Clark</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Djonat@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:jonat@autox.team.net">jonat@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 28, =
2004 6:43=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [JONAT] =
Controversy 102=20
---> was Controversy 101</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D322093619-27012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Flame suit on, Kevlar Suit on, earplugs =
in......</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D322093619-27012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D322093619-27012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I=20
agree with the cliquism, elitism concern and I think we are =
overworking=20
this.....as far as I am concerned, anyone that want to join the =
procession=20
must de facto be a fan of the Jag...if a non Jag owner wants to join =
in the=20
spirit of things, hey the more the merrier....if they are not =
driving a Jag,=20
I suggest we encourage them to follow the procession rather than =
inserting=20
themselves amongst the Cats but there is no way we can really police =
it in=20
any event. I'd like to think of it as more =
a collection of=20
groupies trailing us (I always wanted to be a rock star with =
groupies)=20
:-). I think most would understand and honour this type of=20
request.....hey we could even take it one step further and give them =
a=20
static cling decal saying "I wish I was a =
Jag!"</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D322093619-27012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D322093619-27012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Let the shunning begin!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net] =
<B>On=20
Behalf Of </B>Ian Bailey<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 27, 2004 =
8:30=20
AM<BR><B>To:</B> jonat@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
[JONAT]=20
Controversy 102 ---> was Controversy 101<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As Bob has stated in my Sector =
(Saskatchewan)=20
we have a Jag club but some members presently do not have a Jag =
that can=20
go on this trip. Though I think they are all trying to get a Jag, =
except=20
our one Alpha owner who we forgive (by forgive I mean put up with =
because=20
he buys coffee sometimes) mostly because he is Italian and we =
like=20
him anyway.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>However, I have said previously =
that as long=20
as we promote Jaguars, make it a "Jaguar" tour, get Jaguar =
sponsorship,=20
etc. I see NO PROBLEM if a Jag club member joins us on this sector =
with=20
his present non-Jaguar car (except the Alpha). This does not need =
to be=20
advertised nor over discussed. It simply means a fellow car-lover =
and club=20
member who is helping us out may come along. AND there will =
be no=20
negative impact on the Tour, in fact, quite the=20
opposite. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That being said:....I would=20
limit non-Jag cars completely to only Club members that =
are=20
helping out in the organization etc. I see no reason to accept any =
non-Jaguar on the Tour who is not a member of the Sector 's =
sponsoring car=20
club or organization.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So I seem to fit in with all the =
other emails=20
on this topic as I say we <STRONG><EM>can</EM></STRONG> have =
non-Jag cars=20
and we <STRONG><EM>can not</EM></STRONG> have non-Jag cars. I =
think I=20
will now run for some office somewhere.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=3Dengl@accesscomm.ca =
href=3D"mailto:engl@accesscomm.ca">Bob</A>=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Djonat@autox.team.net=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January =
27, 2004=20
7:28 AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [JONAT] =
Controversy 102=20
---> was Controversy 101</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D784291113-27012004>For my part I am quite strongly =
opposed to the=20
"Non-Jags at the rear of the convoy approach" that has been =
discussed=20
over he last bit. One, it's a logistical PITA for the =
organizers.=20
Two, it promotes clique-ism on the Tour.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D784291113-27012004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D784291113-27012004>There likely won't be all that many =
non-Jags=20
anyway.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D784291113-27012004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D784291113-27012004>Anyone else feel the same (or do I =
run away and=20
hide again!).</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P><FONT size=3D2><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#008000>Bob =
England<BR></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#008000 =
size=3D1>'69 E-Type &=20
'72 XJ6<BR>Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT)<BR>Route=20
Coordinator<BR></FONT></STRONG></FONT><A=20
href=3D"http://www.jonat.org/"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#008000=20
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size=3D1><STRONG>http://www.jonat.org</STRONG></FONT></A></P></DIV>
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