[JONAT] decision time --- REALLY IMPORTANT READ !
Bob
jonat@autox.team.net
Sat Jan 31 08:31:01 2004
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Hi Brad ... here are some answers as I understand them ...
"fee has been decided for even the National side" - no, still under
discussion. If everyone can live with the $10 for the Sector fee, I say
let's set it at that!
"route has been finalized ( guilty here as well in Virginia )" - no, that is
up the the SC's, and about half of the SC's have not given me feedback on
their route as of yet. This does not concern me too much right now, but
should be decided by the end of the month. What does concern me is that if
an SC has not looked at their route and need an extra day, THAT causes a
problem for EVERYONE downstream, and should be avoided.
The one difficulty is where we do not have a few SC's in place. Wisconsin
is close to having one. Indiana, I think we will by pass as there is no
interest. Toronto, I think we are now close. Dallas and Oklahoma - not
close - have sent out a couple of e-mails to the SC/ASC group and have had
ZERO response - I have decided that ZERO response means "DON'T CARE" and
will make the decision myself. That only leaves Carolinas and I have some
feelers out but no definitive response.
"total of participants by sector has been mentioned" - the number of
individuals participating in each sector is dependant upon how well we do
our PR. We probably won't have a good idea until say end of March (or even
later in some Sectors). One of the keys at this point is registration, and
we are working on a methodology now.
"decision on who can participate has been finalized" - I think we're close -
I'll try to put together a policy for review by the end of the weekend.
"process has been developed on how the SC's get reimbursed should we/they
cover some of the costs up front" - that is up to the SC's and how they work
their Sector finances. There is no seed fund at a Tour level.
"While the ideas of emblems and badges and the sort are nice - We have got
to solidify some of these MAJOR issues here first - or the need for these
other details will obviously not be needed." - you are spot on. But also we
should not stifle the ideas on the small issues either.
Brad these type of comments are good and I would encourage all to be
outspoken. There are a few items that are behind where I would like to see
them too. There is always a last minute rush on volunteer type
organizations, and I personally hate that part and want to avoid it as much
as possible.
Bob England
'69 E-Type & '72 XJ6
Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT)
Route Coordinator
http://www.jonat.org
-----Original Message-----
From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Brad Preiss
Sent: January 30, 2004 10:30 PM
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [JONAT] decision time
Team,
Not to be a pessimist - but I agree with Mike 100% and I have to ask , Bob -
In reference to you r comments below, are there ANY details that have been
decided on FIRMLY - seriously:
I don't think a:
1. fee has been decided for even the National side
2. route has been finalized ( guilty here as well in Virginia )
3. total of participants by sector has been mentioned
4. decision on who can participate has been finalized
5. process has been developed on how the SC's get reimbursed should
we/they cover some of the costs up front
Among others.....
While the ideas of emblems and badges and the sort are nice - We have got to
solidify some of these MAJOR issues here first - or the need for these other
details will obviously not be needed.
DIRECTION/DECISIONS FROM THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE IS REQUIRED ASAP
Sorry about being so frank but it is the jist of what Mike was talking
about.....
Brad Preiss
Virginia SC
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size=3D2>Hi=20
Brad ... here are some answers as I understand them =
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size=3D2><STRONG><SPAN class=3D470150115-31012004>"</SPAN>fee has been =
decided for=20
even the National side</STRONG><SPAN =
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- no, still under discussion. If everyone can live with the $10 =
for the=20
Sector fee, I say let's set it at =
that!</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff><FONT=20
size=3D2><STRONG><SPAN class=3D470150115-31012004>"</SPAN>route has =
been=20
finalized ( guilty here as well in Virginia )</STRONG><SPAN=20
class=3D470150115-31012004><STRONG>"</STRONG> - no, that is up the the =
SC's, and=20
about half of the SC's have not given me feedback on their route as of=20
yet. This does not concern me too much right now, but should be =
decided by=20
the end of the month. What does concern me is that if an SC has =
not looked=20
at their route and need an extra day, THAT causes a problem for EVERYONE =
downstream, and should be =
avoided.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff><FONT=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D470150115-31012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV=
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff><FONT=20
size=3D2><SPAN class=3D470150115-31012004>The one difficulty is =
where we do not=20
have a few SC's in place. Wisconsin is close to having one. =
Indiana,=20
I think we will by pass as there is no interest. Toronto, I think =
we are=20
now close. Dallas and Oklahoma - not close - have sent out a =
couple of=20
e-mails to the SC/ASC group and have had ZERO response - I have decided =
that=20
<FONT color=3D#ff0000>ZERO response means "DON'T CARE" and will make the =
decision=20
myself</FONT>. That only leaves Carolinas and I have some feelers =
out but=20
no definitive response.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff><FONT=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D470150115-31012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV=
>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff><FONT=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D470150115-31012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV=
>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff><FONT=20
size=3D2><STRONG><SPAN class=3D470150115-31012004>"</SPAN>total of =
participants by=20
sector has been mentioned</STRONG><SPAN=20
class=3D470150115-31012004><STRONG>"</STRONG> - the number of =
individuals=20
participating in each sector is dependant upon how well we do our =
PR. We=20
probably won't have a good idea until say end of March (or even later in =
some=20
Sectors). One of the keys at this point is registration, and we =
are=20
working on a methodology now.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff><FONT=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D470150115-31012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV=
>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff><FONT=20
size=3D2><STRONG><SPAN class=3D470150115-31012004>"</SPAN>decision on =
who can=20
participate has been finalized</STRONG><SPAN=20
class=3D470150115-31012004><STRONG>"</STRONG> - I think we're close - =
I'll try to=20
put together a policy for review by the end of the=20
weekend.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff><FONT=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D470150115-31012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV=
>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff><FONT=20
size=3D2><STRONG><SPAN class=3D470150115-31012004>"</SPAN>process has =
been developed=20
on how the SC's get reimbursed should we/they cover some of the =
costs up=20
front</STRONG><SPAN class=3D470150115-31012004><STRONG>"</STRONG> - that =
is up to=20
the SC's and how they work their Sector finances. There is no seed =
fund at=20
a Tour level.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff><FONT=20
size=3D2><STRONG><SPAN class=3D470150115-31012004>"</SPAN>While the =
ideas of emblems=20
and badges and the sort are nice - We have got to solidify some of these =
MAJOR=20
issues here first - or the need for these other details will=20
obviously not be needed.</STRONG><SPAN=20
class=3D470150115-31012004><STRONG>"</STRONG> - you are spot on. =
But also we=20
should not stifle the ideas on the small issues=20
either.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D470150115-31012004>Brad=20
these type of comments are good and I would encourage all to be =
outspoken. =20
There are a few items that are behind where I would like to see them =
too. =20
There is always a last minute rush on volunteer type organizations, and =
I=20
personally hate that part and want to avoid it as much as=20
possible.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<P><FONT size=3D2><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#008000>Bob=20
England<BR></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#008000 size=3D1>'69 E-Type =
& '72=20
XJ6<BR>Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT)<BR>Route=20
Coordinator<BR></FONT></STRONG></FONT><A =
href=3D"http://www.jonat.org/"><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3D#008000=20
size=3D1><STRONG>http://www.jonat.org</STRONG></FONT></A></P></DIV>
<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
jonat-admin@autox.team.net=20
[mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Brad=20
Preiss<BR><B>Sent:</B> January 30, 2004 10:30 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
jonat@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [JONAT] decision time=20
<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Team,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Not to=20
be a pessimist - but I agree with Mike 100% and I have to ask , Bob =
- In=20
reference to you r comments below, are there ANY details that have been =
decided=20
on FIRMLY - seriously:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004></SPAN><SPAN =
class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2> I don't think a:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>1. fee has been decided for even the National=20
side</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>2. route has been finalized ( guilty here =
as well in=20
Virginia ) </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>3. total of participants by sector has been=20
mentioned</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>4. decision on who can participate has been=20
finalized</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>5. process has been developed on how the SC's =
get=20
reimbursed should we/they cover some of the costs up =
front</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Among=20
others.....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>While=20
the ideas of emblems and badges and the sort are nice - We have got to =
solidify=20
some of these MAJOR issues here first - or the need for these other =
details=20
will obviously not be needed.</FONT> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>DIRECTION/DECISIONS FROM THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE IS REQUIRED=20
ASAP</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Sorry=20
about being so frank but it is the jist of what Mike was talking=20
about.....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Brad=20
Preiss</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Virginia SC</FONT></SPAN></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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