[JONAT] decision time --- REALLY IMPORTANT READ !
Richard Jones
jonat@autox.team.net
Sat Jan 31 09:48:02 2004
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"process has been developed on how the SC's get reimbursed should =
we/they cover some of the costs up front" - that is up to the SC's and =
how they work their Sector finances. There is no seed fund at a Tour =
level.
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I'm not clear on what costs/reimbursements are anticipated by SC's. =
Other than voluteered time, I was not expecting any costs (or any =
reimbursements). If you are
referring to things like printing optional sector-specific handouts, =
and the like, wouldn't that be covered by the anticipated $10 sector =
fee? Also, I am wondering what happens when say $400 is collected in =
sector fees, and 0-$100 is spent -- where does the remainder go?
Dick Jones
Minnesota SC
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Bob=20
To: jonat@autox.team.net=20
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 9:29 AM
Subject: RE: [JONAT] decision time --- REALLY IMPORTANT READ !
Hi Brad ... here are some answers as I understand them ...
"fee has been decided for even the National side" - no, still under =
discussion. If everyone can live with the $10 for the Sector fee, I say =
let's set it at that!
"route has been finalized ( guilty here as well in Virginia )" - no, =
that is up the the SC's, and about half of the SC's have not given me =
feedback on their route as of yet. This does not concern me too much =
right now, but should be decided by the end of the month. What does =
concern me is that if an SC has not looked at their route and need an =
extra day, THAT causes a problem for EVERYONE downstream, and should be =
avoided.
The one difficulty is where we do not have a few SC's in place. =
Wisconsin is close to having one. Indiana, I think we will by pass as =
there is no interest. Toronto, I think we are now close. Dallas and =
Oklahoma - not close - have sent out a couple of e-mails to the SC/ASC =
group and have had ZERO response - I have decided that ZERO response =
means "DON'T CARE" and will make the decision myself. That only leaves =
Carolinas and I have some feelers out but no definitive response.
"total of participants by sector has been mentioned" - the number of =
individuals participating in each sector is dependant upon how well we =
do our PR. We probably won't have a good idea until say end of March =
(or even later in some Sectors). One of the keys at this point is =
registration, and we are working on a methodology now.
"decision on who can participate has been finalized" - I think we're =
close - I'll try to put together a policy for review by the end of the =
weekend.
"process has been developed on how the SC's get reimbursed should =
we/they cover some of the costs up front" - that is up to the SC's and =
how they work their Sector finances. There is no seed fund at a Tour =
level.
"While the ideas of emblems and badges and the sort are nice - We =
have got to solidify some of these MAJOR issues here first - or the need =
for these other details will obviously not be needed." - you are spot =
on. But also we should not stifle the ideas on the small issues either.
Brad these type of comments are good and I would encourage all to be =
outspoken. There are a few items that are behind where I would like to =
see them too. There is always a last minute rush on volunteer type =
organizations, and I personally hate that part and want to avoid it as =
much as possible.
Bob England
'69 E-Type & '72 XJ6
Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT)
Route Coordinator
http://www.jonat.org
-----Original Message-----
From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net =
[mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Brad Preiss
Sent: January 30, 2004 10:30 PM
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [JONAT] decision time=20
Team,
Not to be a pessimist - but I agree with Mike 100% and I have to ask =
, Bob - In reference to you r comments below, are there ANY details that =
have been decided on FIRMLY - seriously:
I don't think a:
1. fee has been decided for even the National side
2. route has been finalized ( guilty here as well in Virginia )=20
3. total of participants by sector has been mentioned
4. decision on who can participate has been finalized
5. process has been developed on how the SC's get reimbursed =
should we/they cover some of the costs up front
Among others.....
While the ideas of emblems and badges and the sort are nice - We =
have got to solidify some of these MAJOR issues here first - or the need =
for these other details will obviously not be needed.=20
DIRECTION/DECISIONS FROM THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE IS REQUIRED ASAP
Sorry about being so frank but it is the jist of what Mike was =
talking about.....
Brad Preiss
Virginia SC
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Re: =20
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff><FONT=20
size=3D2><STRONG><SPAN class=3D470150115-31012004>"</SPAN>process has =
been=20
developed on how the SC's get reimbursed should we/they cover =
some of=20
the costs up front</STRONG><SPAN =
class=3D470150115-31012004><STRONG>"</STRONG> -=20
that is up to the SC's and how they work their Sector finances. =
There is=20
no seed fund at a Tour level.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D470150115-31012004>I'm not clear on what costs/reimbursements =
are=20
anticipated by SC's. Other than voluteered time, I was not =
expecting any=20
costs (or any reimbursements). If you=20
are</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D470150115-31012004>referring to things like printing optional=20
sector-specific handouts, and the like, wouldn't that be covered by =
the=20
anticipated $10 sector fee? Also, I am wondering what =
happens=20
when say $400 is collected in sector fees, and 0-$100 is spent -- =
where=20
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT=20
face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D470150115-31012004>does the =
remainder=20
go?</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D470150115-31012004>Dick =
Jones</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D470150115-31012004>Minnesota =
SC</SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff><FONT=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
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<DIV></FONT>----- Original Message ----- </DIV></DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dengl@accesscomm.ca =
href=3D"mailto:engl@accesscomm.ca">Bob</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Djonat@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:jonat@autox.team.net">jonat@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 31, =
2004 9:29=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [JONAT] decision =
time ---=20
REALLY IMPORTANT READ !</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D470150115-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Hi=20
Brad ... here are some answers as I understand them =
...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D470150115-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D470150115-31012004>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><STRONG><SPAN=20
class=3D470150115-31012004>"</SPAN>fee has been decided for even the =
National=20
side</STRONG><SPAN class=3D470150115-31012004><STRONG>"</STRONG> - =
no, still=20
under discussion. If everyone can live with the $10 for the =
Sector=20
fee, I say let's set it at =
that!</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><STRONG><SPAN=20
class=3D470150115-31012004>"</SPAN>route has been =
finalized ( guilty=20
here as well in Virginia )</STRONG><SPAN=20
class=3D470150115-31012004><STRONG>"</STRONG> - no, that is up the =
the SC's,=20
and about half of the SC's have not given me feedback on their route =
as of=20
yet. This does not concern me too much right now, but should =
be=20
decided by the end of the month. What does concern me is that =
if an SC=20
has not looked at their route and need an extra day, THAT causes a =
problem=20
for EVERYONE downstream, and should be=20
avoided.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
=
class=3D470150115-31012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV=
>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D470150115-31012004>The=20
one difficulty is where we do not have a few SC's in =
place. =20
Wisconsin is close to having one. Indiana, I think we will by =
pass as=20
there is no interest. Toronto, I think we are now close. =
Dallas=20
and Oklahoma - not close - have sent out a couple of e-mails to the =
SC/ASC=20
group and have had ZERO response - I have decided that <FONT=20
color=3D#ff0000>ZERO response means "DON'T CARE" and will make the =
decision=20
myself</FONT>. That only leaves Carolinas and I have some =
feelers out=20
but no definitive response.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
=
class=3D470150115-31012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV=
>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
=
class=3D470150115-31012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV=
>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><STRONG><SPAN=20
class=3D470150115-31012004>"</SPAN>total of participants by sector =
has been=20
mentioned</STRONG><SPAN =
class=3D470150115-31012004><STRONG>"</STRONG> - the=20
number of individuals participating in each sector is dependant upon =
how=20
well we do our PR. We probably won't have a good idea until =
say end of=20
March (or even later in some Sectors). One of the keys at this =
point=20
is registration, and we are working on a methodology=20
now.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
=
class=3D470150115-31012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV=
>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><STRONG><SPAN=20
class=3D470150115-31012004>"</SPAN>decision on who can participate =
has been=20
finalized</STRONG><SPAN =
class=3D470150115-31012004><STRONG>"</STRONG> - I=20
think we're close - I'll try to put together a policy for review by =
the end=20
of the weekend.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
=
class=3D470150115-31012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> </DIV=
>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><STRONG><SPAN=20
class=3D470150115-31012004>"</SPAN>process has been developed on how =
the=20
SC's get reimbursed should we/they cover some of the costs up=20
front</STRONG><SPAN class=3D470150115-31012004><STRONG>"</STRONG> - =
that is up=20
to the SC's and how they work their Sector finances. There is =
no seed=20
fund at a Tour level.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20
color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><STRONG><SPAN=20
class=3D470150115-31012004>"</SPAN>While the ideas of emblems and =
badges and=20
the sort are nice - We have got to solidify some of these MAJOR =
issues here=20
first - or the need for these other details will =
obviously not be=20
needed.</STRONG><SPAN class=3D470150115-31012004><STRONG>"</STRONG> =
- you are=20
spot on. But also we should not stifle the ideas on the small =
issues=20
either.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D470150115-31012004>Brad these type of comments are good and =
I would=20
encourage all to be outspoken. There are a few items that are =
behind=20
where I would like to see them too. There is always a last =
minute rush=20
on volunteer type organizations, and I personally hate that part and =
want to=20
avoid it as much as possible.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<P><FONT size=3D2><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#008000>Bob=20
England<BR></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#008000 size=3D1>'69 =
E-Type & '72=20
XJ6<BR>Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT)<BR>Route=20
Coordinator<BR></FONT></STRONG></FONT><A =
href=3D"http://www.jonat.org/"><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3D#008000=20
size=3D1><STRONG>http://www.jonat.org</STRONG></FONT></A></P></DIV>
<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
jonat-admin@autox.team.net=20
[mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Brad=20
Preiss<BR><B>Sent:</B> January 30, 2004 10:30 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
jonat@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [JONAT] decision time=20
<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Team,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Not to be a pessimist - but I agree with Mike 100% and =
I have to=20
ask , Bob - In reference to you r comments below, are there ANY =
details that=20
have been decided on FIRMLY - seriously:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004></SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2> I don't think a:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>1. fee has been decided for even the National=20
side</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>2. route has been finalized ( guilty =
here as=20
well in Virginia ) </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>3. total of participants by sector has been=20
mentioned</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>4. decision on who can participate has been=20
finalized</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>5. process has been developed on how the =
SC's get=20
reimbursed should we/they cover some of the costs up=20
front</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Among others.....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>While the ideas of emblems and badges and the sort are nice =
- We have=20
got to solidify some of these MAJOR issues here first - or the need=20
for these other details will obviously not be=20
needed.</FONT> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>DIRECTION/DECISIONS FROM THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE IS =
REQUIRED=20
ASAP</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Sorry about being so frank but it is the jist of what Mike =
was=20
talking about.....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Brad Preiss</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D420191704-31012004><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Virginia SC</FONT></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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