[JONAT] How do we collect fees ?

Bob jonat@autox.team.net
Sat Jan 31 16:40:02 2004


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Dick

The idea is to keep things simple as this is an all volunteer effort.  The
simplest thing if for JONAT central to collect it's fees, and the sectors to
collect theirs, so one flat fee I think would be less manageable for us
volunteers (much better, however, for the participants) if we had to dole
out money based on requests from the Sectors.  My own personal opinion is
that the Sectors need to collect and manage their own finances.

I suppose if we collect $65 for the tour, rather than $45, and send the
extra $20 to the participants' home sector, this might be workable.  We need
to keep it a fixed amount though to keep it simple.  How does that sound as
an alternative ...

Bob



 -----Original Message-----
From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Richard Jones
Sent: January 31, 2004 5:19 PM
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [JONAT] How do we collect fees ?



  Bob,

  As I look at this some more, the question keeps popping up....What is the
rationale for doing both central and sector fees?  Wouldn't it be more
manageable to have just one flat fee for participation in the tour, which
would be the same for everyone, regardless of the number of sectors
travelled?  So what if people travelling multiple sectors get more bang for
their buck?  This would enable all of the money to all be funneled into one
place (central committee) where it could be managed basically by one person.
If SC's need funds for approved requests, the central committee would then
simply disperse the reimbursements from this pot and always know exactly
where things stand financially.


  Dick.
  Minnesota SC.

  ----- Original Message -----
    From: Bob
    To: jonat@autox.team.net
    Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 12:58 PM
    Subject: [JONAT] How do we collect fees ?


    I've put some thought into this lately, and have come up with Tour fees
collected centrally, and Sector fees collected by the Sector.  The downside
to this is people will be sending their money all over the place, the upside
is it keeps it distributed, with no monies passing between central and/or
the sectors.  This might not be the best way though ... any other thoughts?

    We will probably also need fairly quickly a couple of registration
people, one for the US, and one for CANADA.  Jamie/Fazal comments?  I have
started to put together some registration pages at
http://jonat.org/bob/RegistrationForm/RegistrationPageTest.htm if you want
to see how things are going on this ... note that when you submit your
registration by e-mail it does not work yet.
    Bob

     -----Original Message-----
    From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Dr Gregory Andrachuk
    Sent: January 31, 2004 10:57 AM
    To: jonat@autox.team.net
    Subject: Re: [JONAT] decision time --- REALLY IMPORTANT READ !



    And, how exactly are these fees (both general and sector) to be
collected?
                                        Gregory


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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Dick.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Minnesota SC.</FONT></DIV>
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