[JONAT] How do we collect fees ?

Dr Gregory Andrachuk jonat@autox.team.net
Sat Jan 31 19:14:01 2004


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That sounds like a good alternative. But charging a sector fee discourages people from doing more than one sector. I am starting to think we should eliminate a sector fee altogether.
                                    Gregory
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  To: jonat@autox.team.net 
  Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 3:38 PM
  Subject: RE: [JONAT] How do we collect fees ?


  Dick

  The idea is to keep things simple as this is an all volunteer effort.  The simplest thing if for JONAT central to collect it's fees, and the sectors to collect theirs, so one flat fee I think would be less manageable for us volunteers (much better, however, for the participants) if we had to dole out money based on requests from the Sectors.  My own personal opinion is that the Sectors need to collect and manage their own finances.

  I suppose if we collect $65 for the tour, rather than $45, and send the extra $20 to the participants' home sector, this might be workable.  We need to keep it a fixed amount though to keep it simple.  How does that sound as an alternative ...

  Bob 



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  From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Richard Jones
  Sent: January 31, 2004 5:19 PM
  To: jonat@autox.team.net
  Subject: Re: [JONAT] How do we collect fees ?



    Bob,

    As I look at this some more, the question keeps popping up....What is the rationale for doing both central and sector fees?  Wouldn't it be more manageable to have just one flat fee for participation in the tour, which would be the same for everyone, regardless of the number of sectors travelled?  So what if people travelling multiple sectors get more bang for their buck?  This would enable all of the money to all be funneled into one place (central committee) where it could be managed basically by one person.  If SC's need funds for approved requests, the central committee would then simply disperse the reimbursements from this pot and always know exactly where things stand financially.  


    Dick.
    Minnesota SC.

    ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Bob 
      To: jonat@autox.team.net 
      Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 12:58 PM
      Subject: [JONAT] How do we collect fees ?


      I've put some thought into this lately, and have come up with Tour fees collected centrally, and Sector fees collected by the Sector.  The downside to this is people will be sending their money all over the place, the upside is it keeps it distributed, with no monies passing between central and/or the sectors.  This might not be the best way though ... any other thoughts?

      We will probably also need fairly quickly a couple of registration people, one for the US, and one for CANADA.  Jamie/Fazal comments?  I have started to put together some registration pages at http://jonat.org/bob/RegistrationForm/RegistrationPageTest.htm if you want to see how things are going on this ... note that when you submit your registration by e-mail it does not work yet.
      Bob 

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      From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Dr Gregory Andrachuk
      Sent: January 31, 2004 10:57 AM
      To: jonat@autox.team.net
      Subject: Re: [JONAT] decision time --- REALLY IMPORTANT READ !



      And, how exactly are these fees (both general and sector) to be collected?
                                          Gregory


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<DIV><FONT size=2>That sounds like a good alternative. But charging a sector fee 
discourages people from doing more than one sector. I am starting to think we 
should eliminate a sector fee altogether.</FONT></DIV>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Gregory</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=engl@accesscomm.ca href="mailto:engl@accesscomm.ca">Bob</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=jonat@autox.team.net 
  href="mailto:jonat@autox.team.net">jonat@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 31, 2004 3:38 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [JONAT] How do we collect 
  fees ?</DIV>
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  <DIV><SPAN class=547472523-31012004><FONT size=2>Dick</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=547472523-31012004><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=547472523-31012004><FONT size=2>The idea is to keep things 
  simple as this is an all volunteer effort.&nbsp; The simplest thing if for 
  JONAT central to collect it's fees, and the sectors to collect theirs, so one 
  flat fee I think would be less manageable for us volunteers (much better, 
  however, for the participants) if we had to dole out money based on requests 
  from the Sectors.&nbsp; My own personal opinion is that the Sectors need to 
  collect and manage their own finances.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=547472523-31012004><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=547472523-31012004><FONT size=2>I suppose if we collect $65 
  for the tour, rather than $45, and send the extra $20 to the participants' 
  home sector, this might be workable.&nbsp; We need to keep it a fixed amount 
  though to keep it simple.&nbsp; </FONT></SPAN><SPAN 
  class=547472523-31012004><FONT size=2>How does that sound as an alternative 
  ...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  <P><FONT size=2><FONT color=#008000><STRONG>Bob</STRONG></FONT><FONT 
  color=#000000><SPAN class=547472523-31012004>&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></FONT></P>
  <P><FONT size=2><FONT color=#000000><SPAN 
  class=547472523-31012004></SPAN></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
  <P><FONT size=2><FONT color=#000000><SPAN 
  class=547472523-31012004>&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> jonat-admin@autox.team.net 
  [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Richard 
  Jones<BR><B>Sent:</B> January 31, 2004 5:19 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 
  jonat@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [JONAT] How do we collect fees 
  ?<BR><BR></P></FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT size=2>Bob,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>As I look at this some more, the question keeps popping 
    up....What is the rationale for&nbsp;doing both central and sector 
    fees?&nbsp; Wouldn't it be more manageable to&nbsp;have just one flat fee 
    for participation in the tour,&nbsp;which would be the same for everyone, 
    regardless of the number of </FONT><FONT size=2>sectors 
    travelled?&nbsp;&nbsp;So what if people travelling multiple sectors get more 
    bang for their buck?&nbsp; This would enable&nbsp;all of the money 
    to&nbsp;all be funneled into one place (central committee) where it could be 
    managed basically by one person.&nbsp; If SC's need funds for approved 
    requests,&nbsp;the central committee would then simply disperse the 
    reimbursements from this pot and always know exactly where things stand 
    financially.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Dick.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Minnesota SC.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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      <DIV 
      style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
      <A title=engl@accesscomm.ca href="mailto:engl@accesscomm.ca">Bob</A> 
</DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=jonat@autox.team.net 
      href="mailto:jonat@autox.team.net">jonat@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 31, 2004 
      12:58 PM</DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [JONAT] How do we collect 
      fees ?</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=543114718-31012004><FONT size=2>I've put some thought 
      into this lately, and have come up with Tour fees collected centrally, and 
      Sector fees collected by the Sector.&nbsp; The downside to this is people 
      will be sending their money all over the place, the upside is it keeps it 
      distributed, with no monies passing between central and/or the 
      sectors.&nbsp; This might not be the best way though ... any other 
      thoughts?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=543114718-31012004><FONT 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><SPAN class=543114718-31012004><FONT size=2>We will probably also 
      need fairly quickly a couple of registration people, one for the US, and 
      one for CANADA.&nbsp; Jamie/Fazal comments?&nbsp; I have started to put 
      together some registration pages at <A 
      href="http://jonat.org/bob/RegistrationForm/RegistrationPageTest.htm">http://jonat.org/bob/RegistrationForm/RegistrationPageTest.htm</A>&nbsp;if 
      you want to see how things are going on this ... note that when you submit 
      your registration by e-mail it does not work yet.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <P><FONT size=2><FONT color=#008000><STRONG>Bob</STRONG></FONT><FONT 
      color=#000000><SPAN 
      class=543114718-31012004>&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></FONT></P>
      <P><FONT size=2><FONT color=#000000><SPAN 
      class=543114718-31012004>&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma 
      size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
      jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net]<B>On Behalf 
      Of </B>Dr Gregory Andrachuk<BR><B>Sent:</B> January 31, 2004 10:57 
      AM<BR><B>To:</B> jonat@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [JONAT] 
      decision time --- REALLY IMPORTANT READ !<BR><BR></P></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=2>And, how exactly are these fees (both general and 
      sector) to be collected?</FONT></DIV>
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      &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
      &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
      Gregory</FONT></DIV>
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