[Kcup] Eagles Canyon 2014

Sat Apr 13 11:12:26 MDT 2013

Here's my penny of thought .... we need to push them to accept them but in the end not make it a deal breaker  , I'd like to see a day when we could get the wedges included everywhere.

Bob Kramer
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On Apr 13, 2013, at 6:31 AM, "Henry Frye" <henry at henryfrye.com> wrote:

> My two cents... First and foremost, if Kas is onboard, that certainly
> works for me. 
> 
> Geographically, the location is south centrally located, so that's a
> plus to many. Seems like a nice and fair location after where the last
> few K-Cups have been run. Looks like a 26 hour tow for me. I doubt I can
> pull that one off.
> 
> I think Jason's point about the support the Texas FOT has shown by
> making the long tows is commendable, and certainly worth rewarding.
> 
> If no other proposals are in the pipeline that should be considered, I
> think we should give Bob the green light to see if we can get all out
> cars in, get a feature race on the schedule, get an All-Triumphs
> practice session, etc. 
> 
> I think we need to think about the issue of these Vintage sanctioning
> bodies accepting our SCCA cars. Should this be a 
> deal breaker?
> 
> 
> 
> Henry Frye
> Triumph Technology Consultants
> 860.508.3118 (c) 
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: kcup-bounces at autox.team.net 
>> [mailto:kcup-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Kramer
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 11:45 AM
>> To: kcup at autox.team.net
>> Subject: [Kcup] Eagles Canyon 2014
>> 
>> Joe mentioned that the RMVR proposal for 2014 K-CUP has been 
>> taken off the table. Are there any others? If we are ready to 
>> move forward I'll get the negotiation ball rolling  so I can 
>> hold out our commitment to them until we get what we want. 
>> For example, we  need to see how far we can push CVAR with 
>> waivers for non-vintage cars. This might be a little tougher 
>> with the British Small bore group. I doubt they'll let 
>> non-vintage cars run it that race, but we can squeeze 
>> everything up to the TR6's in CVASR groups. I'd have some arm 
>> twisting to do to accommodate TR7/8's so we would want to 
>> know if any of those would be coming.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I have heard from Joe and he tells me that Kas is onboard if 
>> we choose ECR. We need to hear from the steering Committee to 
>> know that we are all in agreement, or not.  What do you all think?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Bob Kramer
>> 
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bob Kramer <bkramer at ascoeq.com>
>> To: kcup <kcup at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Tue, Apr 9, 2013 1:38 pm
>> Subject: [Kcup] K Cup 2014 Proposal
>> 
>> Friends
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I am not sure who all is on the K Cup mailing list but I'm 
>> sure you will all be interested in hearing what the Texas FOT 
>> has to propose for 2014. We hoping to offer up a K-Cup 
>> opportunity here in Austin at the Circuit of the Americas F-1 
>> track, but alas, the daily rental rate for the track has 
>> prohibited our Texas based vintage group from coming to terms 
>> with the COTA people to pull off an annual vintage race at 
>> COTA. It may be possible in the future but for now they are 
>> still rigid on their pricing and putting on an event there is 
>> way too risky for our non-profit club.  If you want to race 
>> at COTA, there will be an HSR now SVRA-West event there this October. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> What we would like to propose is an event at Eagles Canyon 
>> Raceway. There are a couple of reasons why ECR is a better 
>> venue for the K-Cup than COTA. First there is the location. 
>> ECR is in north Texas, about an hour north of Fort Worth near 
>> Decatur TX.  Driving in from all directions makes ECR a 
>> reasonable tow for folks in the Midwest and the southeast, 
>> 12.5 hours from Moline IL and Atlanta GA. It is 20 hours from 
>> LA, but still doable. Second, the CVAR Marvelous May event is 
>> held at ECR and includes a British Small Bore race each year, 
>> and we qualify for entry at no extra charge. The 2014 date is 
>> tbd but the 2013 date is May 17-19. This is early enough in 
>> the year that the northern folks may be able to make it the 
>> first race of the year, meaning fresh engines! Thirdly, CVAR 
>> will let us run in our regular race groups and give us a 
>> Triumph only qualifying session and  the K-Cup race. The 
>> groups separate the pre 1961 TR3's in Group 4, the Spitfires 
>> in Group 2 and GT6's, TR4 and TR6's into Group 7. TR8's would 
>> have to get a special waiver to run in Group 1 but I think I 
>> can talk them in to that. Lastly CVAR is affordable, $300.00 
>> for Sat-Sun and $100.00 for Friday Test and Tune, which 
>> alternates between open and closed wheel sessions and will 
>> wear you out while you learn the track. You will want to do 
>> test and tune as the track takes a while to master.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> So there is the basic outlines of a proposal for the 2014 
>> Kastner Cup race if it were to be held in Texas. There is one 
>> final benefit to holding it in Texas. We have 10 FOT racing 
>> in Texas now, and we keep growing. One of the great things 
>> about the Kastner Cup has been getting us all together and 10 
>> cars isn't a bad place to start running the numbers up. If 
>> that isn't enough, Bobby Whitehead lives fairly close to ECR. 
>> We can all descend on his Pawn Shop and raise some havoc.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Please respond to all with your thoughts.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Bob Kramer
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