[Shop-talk] New engine for a Honda? RESOLUTION

Fri Dec 19 02:58:09 MST 2025

John, 

Years ago I used AllData, if I remember correctly, it was mostly just the 
pdfs of the manuals, but not that great.  I remember one time I was 
looking for a sensor on a Mercedes 190D, and the image was just of the 
sensor, but it was an 'illustration' and impossible to figure out where it 
was on the car.

Also, isn't it make specific, or do you get access to all makes/models?

I'm not trying to bad mouth it, but I don't remember it being worth the 
price.  Maybe it's changed.  I'll love to hear more about what you think 
of it, has it gotten better?

But right now, with youtube and AI, I've been getting great results. (but 
I'm always willing to buy another tool!) 8>)

FWIW on the AI side.  The Army released it's own AI and I was totally blow 
away by it.  I had a white paper to write (about 3 pages, in a very 
specific format.)  I just put in the data for each portion of the white 
paper, in normal speaking voice, and in less than 30 seconds, I had a VERY 
professional, perfectly formatted white paper.  It even included some 
additional technical data to expand on what I fed it (and yes, I checked 
it and it was correct.)  I was really impressed.

However, I totally agree that AI needs to be verified and doubled checked. 
 As an instructor in the Army, we have student's try to pass off papers 
that were AI generated and it is very clear what is AI.
I find it's best use is to have it do formatting, and the 'boiler plate' 
work.  The 'substance' needs to come from the person.

Often I need to write a letter or memo, and i just tell it what i need the 
document to say and it formats it perfectly and does all the 'heavy 
lifting' and i just go back and fix/add any details.

Have a great day!
Moose

From:   John T Blair <jblair1948 at cox.net>
To:     "shop-talk at autox.team.net" <shop-talk at autox.team.net>
Date:   12/19/2025 00:08
Subject:        Re: [Shop-talk] New engine for a Honda? RESOLUTION
Sent by:        "Shop-talk" <shop-talk-bounces at autox.team.net>

On Thursday, December 18, 2025 at 09:34:23 PM EST, Old Dirtbeard 
<dirtbeard at live.com> wrote: 

>I have been using MS Copilot, it is bundled with Edge for free and can be 

>quite helpful in the initial exploration phase. It can help you to ask 
the right 
>questions.....

So with all this AI don't forget about AllData for the DIYers.  You can 
get a 1 mo. subscription for $20.  So if you're stumped try that.  I keep 
meaning to as I used one of the commercial on-line diagnostic similar to 
the "Pro" version of AllData when I was talking auto classes at the local 
community college. 

I haven't been stumped yet.  My son had a problem with his 2011 F150, no 
instrument lights and no start.  We spent about 5 hr. working on it and 
searching the internet  to no avail. Then he found a youtube video about 
the problem.  Turns out a loose connector in the passenger side front kick 
panel.  Pulled the panel and sure enough.  Plugged the plug back in and 
off it went.

These computers and all the support site are our best friends!!!!

JohnT

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