[Shotimes] Codes 176 & 214

[Mike Bruce]

I get 176 first, then the 214

The o2 sensor was from Napa.  This was before I became aware that the
Bosch was better

Am I correct in assuming that when a CID goes bad, it can take several
attempts before the car will start?  It usually takes between one to two
seconds of cranking to start my SHO.  Every once in a while I'll have to
turn the key twice.  I have a CID on hand if it totally dies on me.
Could there be some oil buildup in the sensor that is weakening the
magnetic field (I guess that's how it works).

>> Could my condition have anything to do with the +20hp StuporChip I
got
>> from EBay?

>Is it properly installed between your ears?  :)

Yeah, it's in but those ends were pointy

Mike Bruce
-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Nimz
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 1:23 PM
To: Mike Bruce; shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Codes 176 & 214

> Could my condition have anything to do with the +20hp StuporChip I got
> from EBay?

Is it properly installed between your ears?  :)

What kind of O2 sensors are you using?  Perhaps a different brand?  NGK 
makes the OEM Ford ones.

Paul Nimz
'97 TR
'93 EG mtx


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Bruce" <shoitoff@verizon.net>
To: "'John J. Weidenbenner'" <johnjweid@charter.net>; 
<shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, November 28, 1997 9:15 AM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Codes 176 & 214


> Just looked at the front plugs.  They all appear the same to me. A
> little white on the ground, and some black elsewhere.  I don't see
> anything too wrong with that.
> I figured the same about the EGR, but I looked it over anyhow.
Visually
> no problems.
> All signs point to the front O2 sensor.  I've removed and installed
> those buggers countless times over the last 2.75 years.  I think I may
> have a spare around here somewhere.
> The CID sensor looked like it was covered in grime.  The rear edge of
> the valve cover was damp with oil to boot.  It will wait another month
> or so to be fixed.
>
> Could my condition have anything to do with the +20hp StuporChip I got
> from EBay?
>
> Ian-
> The O2s have both been replaced since I purchased the car, so within
> 25,000 miles.  The car doesn't burn any oil(I'm going to regret saying
> that).  The MAF is a Lincoln unit that was a part of the SHOshop stage
1
> kit.  My skinny arms have no problem getting back behind the motor;)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John J.
Weidenbenner
> Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 9:29 AM
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Codes 176 & 214
>
> Paul's right. The EGR sensor would only affect the rear bank.
>
> John W.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Paul Nimz" <pnimz@v8sho.com>
> To: "Mike Bruce" <shoitoff@verizon.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 9:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Codes 176 & 214
>
>
>> That's the front bank, I'd pull the plugs up front and see if they
are
> all
>> similar or if one is much more white than the others.
>>
>> Paul Nimz
>> '97 TR
>> '93 EG mtx
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