[Shotimes] (OT) Spy pics of 2005 Mustang
D Potter
jpotter8@bellsouth.net
Tue, 10 Dec 2002 07:47:55 -0500
Also, they seem to have some system where they can check warrantee repair
quickly, because
I have had service dorks tell me that Ford has refused repairs before the
work was started (I never let them start work until I've reviewed the
inspection).
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
To: "SHOTimes" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:23 PM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] (OT) Spy pics of 2005 Mustang
> C'mon, Paul, this is a load of crap. How many dealership owners that you
> know live in a trailer park and get food stamps? Owning a dealership is a
> license to print money. Dealers make large dollars, and a lot of it are
> incentives from the factory straight to the dealer that do not involve the
> customer. When you buy most cars at "dealer invoice" they are still making
> at least 5% or more on the vehicle.
>
> The list price on factory parts is very high, dealers make a bundle on
> parts. The factory doesn't, which is why they would just as soon be out of
> the parts business.
>
> Dealers make a bunch on warranty jobs, also. Yeah, they "occasionally" get
> turned down for a warranty job, but they all know how the game is played,
so
> that is a rare occurrence.
>
> Don't feel sorry for dealers, they make good money. The Big Three have
been
> kicking themselves in the ass for the last 60-70 years after giving away
the
> store to franchise dealers, and now they are locked out from opening
factory
> stores due to the franchise laws in just about every state.
>
> Ron Porter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Paul Nimz
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 6:59 PM
> To: D Potter; SHOTimes
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] (OT) Spy pics of 2005 Mustang
>
>
> The dealers have to inflate their prices because they know they will get
> screwed by Ford on book time, warranty payout and corporate mandated but
> inadequately funded programs.....
>
> Paul Nimz
> '97 TR SHO
> '93 EG mtx SHO
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "D Potter" <jpotter8@bellsouth.net>
> To: "SHO GOS" <shogos@earthlink.net>; "SHOTimes" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 6:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] (OT) Spy pics of 2005 Mustang
>
>
> > It's not Ford that asks too much, it's the dealers.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "SHO GOS" <shogos@earthlink.net>
> > To: "SHOTimes" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 11:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] (OT) Spy pics of 2005 Mustang
> >
> >
> > > It sounds like your friend is lacking in the skill of driving to tear
up
> > any
> > > car. Maybe he should just park the car at the beginning of this road
> and
> > > drive a tractor back to his house.
> > >
> > > As for the HUD, I'm interested in just the speed that I'm going, not
the
> > > Tach or of the other things that you can display in that box. You can
> dim
> > > the box and move it out of your line of sight or even shut it off. My
> > point
> > > is Ford is asking way too much for a stripped down car compared to
other
> > > things that are out there for the same amount of money.
> > >
> > > Look at our SHO's. Mine is a 95 and every month someone is posting a
> > message
> > > that Ford isn't carrying this part or that part, fuel pumps, the DIS
is
> > > here, then it's not, then it's back. Power steering pump is hard to
get.
> > > I've got 90K on my SHO. In three years will I have to junk it because
I
> > > can't find any major part that I need? Some of the other cars are not
> like
> > > that and you can get parts for them even if they are 10 - 18 years
old.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "D Potter" <jpotter8@bellsouth.net>
> > > To: "SHOTimes" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 11:29 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] (OT) Spy pics of 2005 Mustang
> > >
> > >
> > > > Well, the corvette I'm referring to is a 2000 or 2001 model, as the
> > guy's
> > > > had it for two years now. The only option he got was Chromed wheels.
I
> > > don't
> > > > know about the radio or anything, but it does have the HUD, traction
> > > control
> > > > and adjustable handling. No removable top of any type.
> > > >
> > > > Sad thing is he lives down a really bad road. I warned him that he
> might
> > > > want to look at a Cobra for the extra ground clearance. He's ripped
> > three
> > > > separate panels off the car, one of them three times. The corvette
is
> > > > starting to make a lot of noises. The road is really stressing the
> body.
> > > > It's got mud on it everyday. What a waste of $42k. His insurance
> refuses
> > > to
> > > > pay for any more repairs due to damage caused by the road he lives
on
> > > (with
> > > > his parents, mind you). For the money he's shelling out on the
lease,
> he
> > > > could've put a whopping down-payment on a nice home on a better
> street,
> > > then
> > > > afford to buy a vette and keep it in good condition. Instead, he's
got
> > to
> > > > live with his parents three more years, and at the end will have no
> > money
> > > > and no car. He's driving on bald tires because he can't afford to
put
> on
> > > > even regular rubber. Oh, yeah, I beat him at the track in my SHO
this
> > > > summer, twice. He won't take it to the strip.
> > > >
> > > > They really need better screening processes before passing out
> > performance
> > > > vehicles.
> > > >
> > > > PS: HUD is nice, but doesn't really seem to have the usefullness
that
> > you
> > > > experience as a military pilot. The same effect could be achieved
much
> > > > cheaper by simply placing a fluourescent display atop the dash. I
> found
> > > once
> > > > the novelty wore off (5 minutes), I checked the readings on the HUD
> less
> > > > often than the dash gauges (due to the harsh contrast of the text).
It
> > was
> > > > somewhat distracting, too, being so close to the line of vision. The
> > only
> > > > usefullness I see for HUD applications in cars is to tag objects and
> the
> > > > road in poor visibility conditions (Although that would lead to
people
> > > > driving at 90 mph in heavy fog. A good pilot knows that when it's
time
> > to
> > > > rely on gauges alone, it's time to be extra cautious). Other than
> > > displaying
> > > > obstructions, a small display of speed in the lower left hand corner
> of
> > > the
> > > > window, in red would be nice, especially if it would also serve as a
> > > highly
> > > > visible idiot light.
> > > >
> > > > Which reminds me... I've found it would be feasible to use the
socket
> > 194
> > > > circuit boards I'm having printed to install both a white LED and a
> 12v
> > > > piezo-electric buzzer. Someone mentioned it would be nice to have an
> > > audible
> > > > alarm to go with the idiot lights, and I agree (oil, mainly). I
can't
> > > always
> > > > see all the lights due to the steering wheel.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > DP
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "SHO GOS" <shogos@earthlink.net>
> > > > To: "SHOTimes" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 12:15 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] (OT) Spy pics of 2005 Mustang
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > That's more loaded than the T-Bird which has nothing except a
> > removable
> > > > hard
> > > > > top. HUD and Fog lights and such use to be an option. I guess
> they're
> > > > > standard now, even more for your buck than the T-Bird.
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