[Shotimes] Camry in Winston Cup 2007

[Ron Nottingham]

I, too, like to see the older cars mix it up.  But one organization takes
the fun out of it all, SVRA.  I have watched vintage racing SCCA style, and
do greatly enjoy it.  I have seen a vintage Trans Am race, put on by the
SCCA, and not the SVRA.  These guys really mixed it up!  Mustangs, Camaros,
Firebirds, AMX's, Mopars, and even some cool imports, like BMW 2002's,
Datsun 510's, Fiat's, and a cool Triumph Vitesse.  These guys really raced,
passing in corners, sheetmetal to sheetmetal contact, etc.  The SVRA is the
one I was talking about in my original post, though.

Ron N. - Dalton, GA
90 SHO

----- Original Message -----
From: "Donald Mallinson" <dmall@mwonline.net>
To: <shotimes-admin@autox.team.net>
Cc: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Camry in Winston Cup 2007


> Ron, I agree with you on most counts, but I don't understand
> the knock on Vintage racing.  I have been to several events,
> and eventually I want to race an SHO in some vintage events.
>
> Yes, it isn't all out, fender banging in a lot of cases, but
> get the old pro's in cars owned by people rich enough to say
> "Don't worry about wrecking it!" and they mix it up pretty
> well.  The point is to see the old cars and some of the old
> drivers on the track again having at it.  I don't think
> ANYONE has represented "vintage" racing at any level as
> anything other than fun and a chance to see and hear some
> really great stuff run again at 9/10ths.
>
> Most vintage "races" don't even have a set finish time or
> lap, they through the flag at a random point so that they
> can call the race over without having people foolishly
> destroy sometimes priceless or irreplaceable machines.
>
> Most vintage organizations have major rules against banging
> fenders and dangerous driving.  Also, most vintage classes
> do allow passing anywhere, just no banging of fenders.  The
> joy as a spectator or participant is to get the old stuff
> out and have fun again.  I got to see some not-so-old NASCAR
> cars up close and personal at a couple of vintage events.  I
> wouldn't get that chance at most NASCAR events.  Same with
> Ferrari, Lotus etc cars from the past.
>
> Don Mallinson
>
> Ron Nottingham wrote:
> > F.1 is now more "follow the leader" than any other sport.  Very little
> > passing, even in the back of the pack.  Nascar now has more lead changes
> > than any other top tier pro motorsport.  As far as Vintage racing, now
there
> > are more rules about "how" to race than anything else (no passing on
> > corners, can only pass on straights with enough room ,etc). Vintage
racing
> > is almost an oxymoron, they need to call it a Vintage parade. The best
> > racing is the non-pro SCCA events.  Don't worry about watching the
leader,
> > as he will usually lead from start to finish.  Watch the "other"
guys/gals.
> > When I go see Trans Am, Grand Am, or ALMS events, I enjoy watching the
> > support races better.  Some of those racers in the middle and back of
the
> > pack give it 210%!!!  They just screw up all the time, and have some
cool
> > spins and off track forays.
> >
> > Ron N. - Dalton, GA
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