[Shotimes] (OT) Forbe's article about Ford

Mark Kelley mrkelley64@earthlink.net
Wed, 06 Nov 2002 11:53:39 -0800


I'm well aware the Acura is Honda's Premium division (since I own one).  I
believe the sedan will be called the TSX and there will be a 200HP Type-S
version.  It's still an entry level sedan albeit in a premium division.  I
just don't see people shopping the Camry/Accord/Taurus market also shopping
the TSX since it will carry a premium price for a small car. 

Mark

On Wed, 06 Nov 2002 09:27:26 -0800 Ron Childs <rchildssho@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I would not be surprised to see a reasonably
> well equipped 4door RSX (or 
> whatever it will be called) to sell in the $21K
> range (or higher)since that 
> is where the RSX starts. This would put it in
> the midst of 
> Taurus/Accord/Camry/Altima pricing. Acura is
> Honda's premium division.
> 
> -Ron
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "Mark Kelley"
> >Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 07:52:38 -0800
> >
> >True, but it's coming in as an entry level
> sedan, not a mid-range sedan 
> >like
> >the Taurus, Accord, or Camry.  If Honda
> thought it was sell as a mid-range,
> >they wouldn't have spent the money designing a
> larger Accord just for the
> >American market.
> >
> >Mark
> >
> >On Wed, 06 Nov 2002 07:27:24 -0800 Ron Childs 
> 
> >wrote:
> >
> > > The smaller Euro Accord is coming to the
> USA to
> > > replace the departed 4-door
> > > Integra. We will get a chance to see how
> well
> > > liked it is here.
> > >
> > > -Ron
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Mark Kelley"
> > > >To: "Don McKinnon \(AST\)"
> > > >CC: "SHOtimes \(Team.net\)"
> > > >Subject: RE: [Shotimes] (OT) Forbe's
> article
> > > about Ford
> > > >Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 18:13:01 -0600
> > > >
> > > >Something that occurred to me on my drive
> home
> > > from work is that the Euro
> > > >and Japanese Accords are smaller than the
> > > American Accord (not sure about
> > > >the Camry) because that aren't the right
> size
> > > for American tastes.  Nick
> > > >Scheele needs to keep that in mind before
> he
> > > downsizes the Taurus (or
> > > >whatever replaces it) due to his belief
> that
> > > Americans want smaller cars.
> > > >
> > > >Mark
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > > > >
> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On
> > > Behalf Of Don McKinnon (AST)
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 4:28
> PM
> > > > > To: mrkelley64@earthlink.net;
> > > shotimes@autox.team.net
> > > > > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] (OT) Forbe's
> > > article about Ford
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I really like this article!
> > > > >
> > >
> http://www.forbes.com/columnists/2002/10/29/cz_jf_1029flint.html
> > > > >
> > > > > "The way to fix the problem is to build
> a
> > > better Taurus. Keep it
> > > > > longer, but
> > > > > get more powerful motors. Your engines
> are
> > > no match for the
> > > > > competition, and
> > > > > you need a punchier four-cylinder for
> > > Taurus, too. "
> > > > >
> > > > > and...
> > > > > "Meanwhile, rear-wheel drive is coming
> back
> > > into vogue, and Ford,
> > > > > which has
> > > > > the only rear-wheel-drive big U.S.
> sedans
> > > in production (the Ford Crown
> > > > > Victoria and Mercury Grand Marquis),
> could
> > > take advantage of this
> > > > > fact. But
> > > > > instead of turning these into
> competitive
> > > products, the automaker is
> > > >happy
> > > > > to let them age and sell the Fords to
> taxi
> > > drivers and cops, and the
> > > >Mercs
> > > > > to geezers like myself. "
> > > > >
> > > > > Don McKinnon
> > > > > 95 MTX
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > > > >
> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On
> > > Behalf Of Mark Kelley
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 2:04
> PM
> > > > > To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> > > > > Subject: [Shotimes] (OT) Forbe's
> article
> > > about Ford
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > We've all heard the bad news about
> Ford.
> > > This Forbe's article points
> > > >out
> > > > > some of the strengths of Ford:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> http://www.forbes.com/home/2002/11/04/cz_jf_1104flint.html
> > > > >
> > > > > I find it interesting that some of the
> > > observations made in the
> > > > > article are
> > > > > the same as some observations posted on
> > > this list.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mark
> > > > >
> > >
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