[Shotimes] Re: Fiero (was Cooling Issues???????)

Tue, 26 Nov 2002 16:33:44 -0500

Tried to stay out of it, but....

Handling:
MR2: more Lotus "feeling"; really light and tossable; make anyone look like
Schumacher
Fiero: more mid-engine Firebird "feeling"; very heavy; more grand tourer
than sportscar
X1/9: what more can I say, it's Italian!  Great looks, awesome voice, not
much punch
914: Still the best "low-price" mid-engine; best handling

Engine:
MR2: needed more "oomph", more like a 2.0L engine, not a supercharger
Fiero: needed a nice, light weight 4-cylinder with "oomph", like an all
alloy Quad-4 HO
X1/9: needed allot more "oomph", an all alloy 2.0L 16V would have been nice
914: was perfect with the 6, and still great with the 2.0L

Looks:
MR2: needs a little help in the looks department
Fiero: best looking mid-engine this side of a Ferrari
X1/9: for it's time,  it was almost a babe
914: timeless, like Sophia Loren, beautiful then and now

My "lust" scale:
MR2: 3
Fiero: 2
X1/9: 1
914: 4

I would take any of them, but that's my desirability scale for stock cars.
It changes quite a bit if radical mods come into play.  The Fiero would
slide up to 4, due only to the fact of so many different engine swaps
available. The MR2 would stay at 3, that 4AG engine is just sweet.  The X1/9
would climb to 2, just 'cause I'd like to put a new Fiat 5-cylinder in.  The
914 would fall to 1, simply because I wouldn't want to mess up such a nice
car to begin with.

Just my opinions :-)

Ron N. - Dalton, GA
90 SHO

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>

> Since the Fiero came out in '84, and the MR2 in '85, who is a fake??  ;-)
>
> Anyway, neither of them were the first small 2-seat cars on the road. Bit
of
> a difference in purpose between them. Plus, just when GM was starting to
get
> the Fiero "right", they pulled the plug.
>
> The V6 setup  with the ATX (as I have) is less than desirable. Throttle
> response can be measured in hours, although it ain't bad once it gets
> cooking. Handling and overall driving feel are very good, it reminds me of
a
> Porsche 914. Comfort is also pretty good. I drove it from Irvine to
> Louisville a few years ago (across 3 days.....just about the same route
and
> stops as when I brought Mallinson's '91+ across country), and found it to
be
> a comfortable freeway cruiser.
>
> Ron Porter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Ian Fisher
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 9:14 AM
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Re: Fiero (was Cooling Issues???????)
>
>
> A fiero is a fake MR2. :) The Mr2 is more SHO like with a Yamaha
> designed motor, dual intake runners, etc. Very nice car; handling can't
> be beaten..
>
> Ian
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of James White
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 9:24 PM
> To: Hulan, William R (GEP); shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: [Shotimes] Re: Fiero (was Cooling Issues???????)
>
>
> I have been half-heartedly looking for a MTX V-6 Fiero for the last
> couple of years. Never have found one that wasn't an expensive show room
> new or a POS.
>
> Don't they have a club?  And maybe a list like ours?
>
> As a toy I think that a modded V-6 MTX could be a lot of fun!
>
> Jim White - greensho@crown.net
> Valparaiso, Indiana
> '93  5 SPEED   276k few mods
> '95  5 SPEED   226k lots of mods
> "double clutch"  it's good for both you and your SHO
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hulan, William R (GEP)" <William.Hulan@gepex.ge.com>
> To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 6:51 PM
> Subject: [Shotimes] Cooling Issues???????
>
>
> > "Paul Nimz wrote:
> >
> > "The V6 Yamaha engine is the worst I've seen wrt the cooling system in
>
> > my
> 35
> > years of car ownership."
> >
> > C'mon Paul....haven't you heard of the wonderful cooling system of the
>
> > Pontiac Fiero?  Start with engine in back, radiator in front. 3,000
> > miles
> of
> > coolant hoses, "special" instructions on how to fill the cooling
> > system: including JACKING the car up to get the system to "BURP". Head
>
> > Gaskets
> that
> > will blow just by mental thought process. And don't get me started
> > about
> the
> > damn things burning faster than a match. Oh well.....I still love
> > them. I guess I am a sucker for punishment....  : )
> >
> > Carnifex
> > '84 Pontiac Fiero
> > '94 ATX
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