[Shotimes] Re: Fiero (was Cooling Issues???????)

[Ron Nottingham]

Sorry, but the '88 Formula was the mid-level Fiero, it's base price was
$10,999 and the GT commanded the higher base of $13,999.  Kind of like the
Firebird Formula and Firebird Trans Am deal.

Somewhere in Detroit, there is an 84 Indy with an all-aluminum, twin-turbo,
2.9L V6.  It did have a 4-speed (went through about 5 of them) and in 86 got
one of the first Getrags.  I remember this car fondly, as I didn't have my
license long, and this was the first FAST car I had ever driven.  My cousin
ended up with the car in 85 (his dad was an engineer at GM).  I also
remember in 86, he and one of my other cousins (who had a highly breathed on
Shelby Charger) used to race against each other.  Amazingly, that Charger
kept pace with the Fiero.

BTW, I do know that 84 Indy's came with an anemic, 92hp 2.5L (non)Tech4
engine.  This one was a testbed for a future hot Fiero.  But it was
considered too fast by Chevrolet, and since the all-alloy 2.9L V6 was based
upon a Chevy engine (it belonged to the 60-degree V6 family, bored 2.8L),
Chevy really didn't like that idea, a Pontiac faster than the Corvette.

There is also a 1.8L turbo Indy Fiero running around the Detroit area.  I
don't know what became of those cars, as my cousins sold them off.  Probably
ran into the ground (or into a telephone pole).

Ron N. - Dalton, GA
90 SHO

----- Original Message -----
From: "James F. Ryan III" <av8r567@optonline.net>


> > I haven't poked around to see the production numbers for '88, but I
> suspect
> > there were fewer GTs than Formulas,
>
> Wrong, Ron.  Your '88 GT is rare, but it's not the rarest Fiero.
>
> '88 base coupe -     19,553
> '88 GT -                   6,848
> '88 Formula -            5,475
>
> '87 Sport Coupe -     3,135    (rare but not desirable)
> '84 Indy Pace Car replica - 2,000
>         (rare, not a top performer, but commanding $$$$)
>
>
> > plus GTs were the most expensive and
> > most highly optioned Fiero of 1988.
>
> I will agree with you there, Ron.
>
> 1988 Fiero base prices
>
> base coupe -        $8,999
> GT -                    $10,999
> Formula -            $13,999
>
>
> > As with many cars, the V6 5-speed models
> > are commanding more $$$, even today.
>
> I've never found actual MTX and ATX production numbers, but unfotunately
> like the Corvette, I think there are many more ATX cars.
>
>
> > The newest hot tip for Fiero engine swaps seems to be the Northstar.
> > Good-looking engine, and nice power.
>
> Hot tip?!?!?  Only if you've got $5000+ burning a hole in your pocket.
> Also, the Northstar must be used with its computer-controlled ATX. :^(
>
> The most popular engine swap seems to be the Buick 3800 V-6 - excellent hp
> without the weight penalty of the SBC.  I've even seen some Fiero's with
the
> supercharged 3800, but now we're talking bucks again and ATX only.
>
> My '84 SE will soon be getting a 180hp 2.3L Quad-4 HO/Getrag 5-spd to
> replace the 92hp 2.5L Iron Duke/TH-125C 3-spd auto.
>
>
>
> Jim Ryan - Wayne, NJ
> 96 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 5.2L
> 84 Fiero SE
> 91 Plus - all white/mocha
> FPS 96 brakes, Carbotech pads, LPM and 80mm MAF w/ K&N and SHO Shop can &
> horn, SHO Shop Y-pipe and cat-back w/ Edelbrock mufflers, KONIs with SHO
> Shop linear springs, f&r strut tower braces and poly bushings all around,
> HiRevs Jr clutch and lightweight flywheel, underdrive pulleys, torque
> limiters, Cincy SHO reinforced engine mounts, Bridgestone Potenza RE730
> tires (excellent), and police grille.
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