[Shotimes] RE: Gen I vs. Gen II:::::was:Wizard of Codes::Fwd: flashing air bag light

[Jim Ryan]

UUUUhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmm.....gee, last time I checked Gen2 meant '92-'95.  I
don't have the production figures in front of me because they're at home
(which is 3000 miles away), but the Gen2s FAR outsold the Gen1s - especially
those green ATXs.


James F. Ryan III
formerly of Wayne, NJ
living in Long Beach, CA for the next month



-----Original Message-----
From: Timothy Tyner [mailto:shospeed@bigplanet.com]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 9:55 AM
To: av8r567@optonline.net
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] RE: Gen I vs. Gen II:::::was:Wizard of Codes::Fwd:
flashing air bag light


Low production? Are you serious?  There are around 2100 95 MTX's, or about
13,000 LESS than 89 MTX's.

Toolman

-------Original Message-------

From: Jim Ryan
Date: Sunday, October 13, 2002 2:36:48 PM
To: TechSHO@topica.com; shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: [Shotimes] RE: Gen I vs. Gen II:::::was:Wizard of Codes::Fwd:
flashing air bag light

Oh no you didn't. Here we go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gen1: 90 & 91 have ABS
> better rear brakes
better sway bars
89 is lightest
low production
MTX
91 Plus model
police grille
body work makes it stand out in a crowd of Tauri

Gen2: crappy rear brakes
green
crappy sway bars
green
ATX (ugh)
green
high production (compared to Gen1)
green
uses Sable body parts
green
body work makes it blend in with other Tauri
green
no special models like the 91 Plus
green
ugly SHO center caps
green
directional wheels
did I mention that sickening green color?

now for the good:
3.2L engine
better looking exhaust tips


Flame suit on!!!

James F. Ryan III
formerly of Wayne, NJ
living in Long Beach, CA for the next month

where the hell is this southern CA sun? I haven't seen blue sky since I
left NJ.
this place sucks, so far.



-----Original Message-----
From: James White [mailto:greensho@crown.net]
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 6:29 PM
To: TechSHO@topica.com
Subject: Re: Gen I vs. Gen II:::::was:Wizard of Codes::Fwd: flashing air
bag light


Gen I vs Gen II vs Gen III

IMHO...

Gen I: NO ABS (on '89)
Rust in structural places frequently

Gen II: ABS & VAPS (I like VAPS for everyday)
Better rust resistance in the structural areas
Best styling
Easiest to upgrade suspension
Easiest to upgrade the motor
Brake upgrade is easy on a '94/5

Gen III: Automatic Trans ONLY
Nearly possible to upgrade the Motor

Clearly the Gen II is the best SHO once you have done a few upgrades.

Jim White - greensho@crown.net
Valparaiso, Indiana
'93 5 SPEED 271k few mods
'95 5 SPEED 156k lots of mods
"double clutch" it's good for both you and your SHO

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marlene Doyle" <snowwind1990@yahoo.com>
To: <TechSHO@topica.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 10:46 PM
Subject: Gen I vs. Gen II:::::was:Wizard of Codes::Fwd:

flashing air bag light


> I'm sure this isn't going to be the high tech answer
> we are used to here, but here goes;
> The low speed to high speed climb is sluggish in a Gen
> II./vs. Gen I.
> the Gen II will not sit down and scoot fast enough
> around any kind of corner.
> The wheel hop drives me nuts at speeds greater than
> 60mph.
> At 100+, Gen II seems to take longer to open all the
> way up, and the die down is slower..
> Gen I gets up quick and slows quicker at speeds over
> 100+.....from a range of 72-100 the Gen I hangs to see
> if you want more, the Gen II pulls back hoping you
> don't ask.
> I think the weight increase of the Gen II and the lack
> of a beefy swaybar setup is to blame,,but they would
> have been better suited up with the 15" to sit down in
> the corners instead of flying and hopping all around
> like they do.
> I just think that the impressive paint selection, the
> quieter interior and the sub-woofers just isn't enough
> adders to keep me pleased with the lessening of
> performance "control" over the Gen I.
> There are also four blind corners from the drivers'
> view and I am distracted by that......haven't your
> ever noticed that in a Gen II?
> There I said it....
> M
> --- John Weidenbenner <johnjweid@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > It's a good tech question. There's not a better
> > place to ask this question!
> > If you look past the Gen I bias comment.
> >
> > John W.
> > 89 & 93 SHOz
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dave Kegel" <d.kegel@attbi.com>
> > To: <TechSHO@topica.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 1:35 PM
> > Subject: RE: Attn:::Wizard of Codes::Fwd: flashing
> > air bag light
> >
> >
> > > This really isn't a topic for Tech SHO, but I'll
> > bite... Why? As an
> > > owner of both a Gen1 and Gen2 I'm curious.
> > >
> > > Dave Kegel
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Marlene Doyle
> > [mailto:snowwind1990@yahoo.com]
> > >
> > > The SHO in question is not mine...(I will never
> > own a
> > > gen II again..I've tried them twice and don't like
> > > them)
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> =====
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> 1990 OxFord White: Snowwind@313K
> 1991 Black: Bart@190K
>
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