[Shotimes] RE: Gen I vs. Gen II:::::was:Wizard of Codes::Fwd: flashing air bag light

David P jpotter8@bellsouth.net
Mon, 21 Oct 2002 08:21:41 -0400


I get 32. 24 is low. Even my Sable did better than that.

I get 10 in the city ;)

David P

95MTX



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----- Original Message -----
From: "Erik Balser" <masho95@attbi.com>
To: "David P" <jpotter8@bellsouth.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 07:41
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] RE: Gen I vs. Gen II:::::was:Wizard of Codes::Fwd:
flashing air bag light


> Whoa wait a minute...you get 30+ mpg??? Maybe my O2's ARE old...I'm
getting
> about 24 mpg combined city and highway.
>
> '95 MTX
> masho95
> http://home.attbi.com/~masho95
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David P" <jpotter8@bellsouth.net>
> To: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>; "_SHOTIMES II"
> <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 7:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] RE: Gen I vs. Gen II:::::was:Wizard of Codes::Fwd:
> flashing air bag light
>
>
> > Agreed, but the SHO is still a Taurus, and the Taurus has history that
> adds
> > to the package. Also, it's not the fact that the car is a hybrid. but
the
> > technology presented as a result of the mating that is unique. Exactly
how
> > many N/A, small displacement, 220hp, 30+ mpg, seating for 5, sportish
cars
> > were on the road in 89?
> >
> >
> > David P
> >
> > 95MTX
> >
> >
> >
> > ~
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
> > To: "_SHOTIMES II" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 11:44
> > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] RE: Gen I vs. Gen II:::::was:Wizard of
Codes::Fwd:
> > flashing air bag light
> >
> >
> > > It's a matter of personal opinion, I guess. The SHO was not the first
> > hybrid
> > > car to be produced by an America mfr. Yes, it was a good one, but not
> all
> > > that unique of a concept.
> > >
> > > What does a SHO have to do with "saving Ford". Yes, the Taurus did,
but
> > Ford
> > > would have gone belly-up if the Taurus only came in a SHO model.
> > >
> > > Ron Porter
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: David P [mailto:jpotter8@bellsouth.net]
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 3:50 AM
> > > To: Ron Porter; alfitz@alfitz.com; _SHOTIMES II
> > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] RE: Gen I vs. Gen II:::::was:Wizard of
> > > Codes::Fwd: flashing air bag light
> > >
> > >
> > > A crossbred engine is all the SHO has going for it? Did any Merkur
> > > practically save Ford? Did they come with motors that were a departure
> > from
> > > Ford design? Did they offer what cars twice as expensive couldn't
muster
> ?
> > I
> > > don't see a small Euro-style body mated with a standard 2.3L Turbo as
> > being
> > > as unique and interesting as the SHO.
> > >
> > >
> > > David P
> > >
> > > 95MTX
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ~
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
> > > To: <alfitz@alfitz.com>; "_SHOTIMES II" <shotimes@autox.team.net>;
> "David
> > P"
> > > <jpotter8@bellsouth.net>
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 20:52
> > > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] RE: Gen I vs. Gen II:::::was:Wizard of
> Codes::Fwd:
> > > flashing air bag light
> > >
> > >
> > > > Those were the first US cars, but the serious FWD drive effort
started
> > in
> > > > the late '70s. I had one of the new style Rivieras in '79, the
> Chrysler
> > > > Omni-Horizon was late '70s, GM X-cars in '80, etc. Ford was late to
> the
> > > game
> > > > with the Escort and Tempo/Topaz.
> > > >
> > > > FEWIW, I don't see where there will be any "history" on the SHO, as
it
> > > isn't
> > > > that unique. Cosworth Vega was as unique back in '75, Merkur came
> along
> > in
> > > > mid '80s. Crossbred engines and bodies predated the SHO by many
years.
> > > >
> > > > Ron Porter
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > > > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of alfitz@alfitz.com
> > > > Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 11:11 AM
> > > > To: _SHOTIMES II; David P
> > > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] RE: Gen I vs. Gen II:::::was:Wizard of
> > > > Codes::Fwd: flashing air bag light
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You said; "so early in the FWD game".
> > > > How about the mass produced Toranados and Cadi from the 70s? 350 CID
> > FWD.
> > > >
> > > > Al Fitzgerald
> > > > alfitz@alfitz.com
> > > >
> > > > > Also, this IS a FWD car. Few people, even today, equate FWD with
> power
> > > or
> > > > > performance. Ford's probably lucky they were able to sell ANY
> > > performance
> > > > > vehicles so early in the FWD game. The SHO will definitely go down
> in
> > > the
> > > > > history books as one unique car with an unusual history.
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