[Shotimes] Block heater

Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:10:50 -0500

You could be right, it has been several years since we had this discussion
and you know how the mind is first thing to go!

Jim
'93 MTX
W/ Mind fading fast

-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Paul Nimz
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 3:30 PM
To: shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Block heater

I believe this guru stated that with the use of synthetic the cam lobe wore
instead of the shim.  This should not happen as the cam is one level harder
than the shim.  The problem is the shim isn't wearing.  And no one knows the
complete history of the engines that he was referring too.

Paul Nimz
'97 TR SHO
'93 EG mtx SHO

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Weinrich" <stevwein@swbell.net>
Cc: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Block heater

> What was not indicated to qualify that particular guru's statement was the
> service history of the cars in question.
>
> Since many synthetic oil users run extended change intervals, there is no
> real way to determine if the shim failures were due to oil failure or from
> failure to change the oil before it broke down.
>
> Without the necessary background data, the reports would have to be
> classified as "anecdotal" only.
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim and Debbie Leyden" <jndleyden@mindspring.com>
> To: "Paul L Fisher" <sho@paul-fisher.com>
> Cc: "92SHO" <92sho@ivex.qc.ca>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 1:46 PM
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Block heater
>
>
> > Next off the wall question...  I have been told by a SHO guru that
> synthetic
> > oils and the SHO motor don't get along.  He says he has seen more badly
> worn
> > valve shims in cars using synthetics that with dino oil.  Anyone care to
> > comment?
> >
> > Jim
> > '93 MTX
> > 20 point dino oil
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul L Fisher [mailto:sho@paul-fisher.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 2:42 PM
> > To: Jim and Debbie Leyden
> > Cc: Paul L Fisher; 92SHO; shotimes@autox.team.net
> > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Block heater
> >
> >
> >
> > On the viscosity range. Yes that is true for dino oils but even Mobil
now
> > does
> > 0W30.
> >
> > Paul L Fisher
> > '93 Ford Taurus SHO Crimson Clearcoat ATX 166K Build date 11/18/1992
> > - K&N Panel filter, Tokico Struts, Eibach Springs, Dynomax cat-back,
> Holley
> > 190lph fuel pump, FPS rebuilt ATX, 26mm rear sway bar, Performance-Plus
> > Stainless Steel Y-pipe, Delrin sub-frame bushings, Amsoil Series 2000
> 0W-30
> > oil, Amsoil Synthetic ATF.
> > '00 Ford Explorer XLT 5.0L V8 AWD Oxford White Clearcoat 34K Build date
> > 11/19/1999
> > - Amsoil Series 2000 0W-30 oil, K&N Fuel Injection Performance Kit
> >
> > SHO Club member http://www.shoclub.com/
> > Check out my web site http://www.paul-fisher.com/
> > Amsoil dealer http://www.paul-fisher.com/oil.htm
> >
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> >
> >
> > Quoting Jim and Debbie Leyden <jndleyden@mindspring.com>:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Paul L Fisher
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 8:33 AM
> > > To: 92SHO
> > > Cc: shotimes@autox.team.net
> > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Block heater
> > >
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > >My personal experience is that when you put a block heater in, they
> > > usually
> > > >leak after a year or 2. You could get a heated dipstick which will
> > > work
> > > almost
> > > >as good. Another thing would be to put a good quality 0W30 oil in
> > > (Mobil 1
> > > and
> > > >Amsoil sell them).
> > >
> > > I worked for a machine tool company that developed (in conjunction
> > > with
> > > Mobil) several types of low friction lubricants.  While I was working
> > > with
> > > the scientists from Mobil I was picking their collective brains.  They
> > > told
> > > me the the friction modifiers that are used in motor oil become
unstable
> > > if
> > > they have more than a 20 point spread ( like 10W-30 is only twenty)  I
> > > have
> > > discussed this with sales reps from other oil companies and they agree
> > > with
> > > the Mobil guys.
> > >
> > > >A even more temporary/cheaper alternative is put a drop light with a
> > > 100W
> > > >light bulb under the hood hooked up to a timer. Have the timer turn
on
> > > 1-2
> > > >hours before you plan on starting the car.
> > >
> > > Since heat rises...  I might suggest placing it under the pan instead
> > > of
> > > under the hood.  After all, we ARE trying to heat the oil, not the
> > > hood
> > > blanket!
> > >
> > > :-}
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > '93 MTX
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