[Shotimes] Block heater

Kerby Haltom kerbyh@netzero.net
Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:16:46 -0600


And the sample size is too small to be valid.

I've had this problem for years with this subject.

Kerby


At 02:30 PM 10/30/02 -0600, Paul Nimz wrote:
>I believe this guru stated that with the use of synthetic the cam lobe wore
>instead of the shim.  This should not happen as the cam is one level harder
>than the shim.  The problem is the shim isn't wearing.  And no one knows the
>complete history of the engines that he was referring too.
>
>Paul Nimz
>'97 TR SHO
>'93 EG mtx SHO
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Steve Weinrich" <stevwein@swbell.net>
>Cc: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
>Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 2:18 PM
>Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Block heater
>
>
> > What was not indicated to qualify that particular guru's statement was the
> > service history of the cars in question.
> >
> > Since many synthetic oil users run extended change intervals, there is no
> > real way to determine if the shim failures were due to oil failure or from
> > failure to change the oil before it broke down.
> >
> > Without the necessary background data, the reports would have to be
> > classified as "anecdotal" only.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jim and Debbie Leyden" <jndleyden@mindspring.com>
> > To: "Paul L Fisher" <sho@paul-fisher.com>
> > Cc: "92SHO" <92sho@ivex.qc.ca>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 1:46 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Block heater
> >
> >
> > > Next off the wall question...  I have been told by a SHO guru that
> > synthetic
> > > oils and the SHO motor don't get along.  He says he has seen more badly
> > worn
> > > valve shims in cars using synthetics that with dino oil.  Anyone care to
> > > comment?
> > >
> > > Jim
> > > '93 MTX
> > > 20 point dino oil
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Paul L Fisher [mailto:sho@paul-fisher.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 2:42 PM
> > > To: Jim and Debbie Leyden
> > > Cc: Paul L Fisher; 92SHO; shotimes@autox.team.net
> > > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Block heater
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On the viscosity range. Yes that is true for dino oils but even Mobil
>now
> > > does
> > > 0W30.
> > >
> > > Paul L Fisher
> > > '93 Ford Taurus SHO Crimson Clearcoat ATX 166K Build date 11/18/1992
> > > - K&N Panel filter, Tokico Struts, Eibach Springs, Dynomax cat-back,
> > Holley
> > > 190lph fuel pump, FPS rebuilt ATX, 26mm rear sway bar, Performance-Plus
> > > Stainless Steel Y-pipe, Delrin sub-frame bushings, Amsoil Series 2000
> > 0W-30
> > > oil, Amsoil Synthetic ATF.
> > > '00 Ford Explorer XLT 5.0L V8 AWD Oxford White Clearcoat 34K Build date
> > > 11/19/1999
> > > - Amsoil Series 2000 0W-30 oil, K&N Fuel Injection Performance Kit
> > >
> > > SHO Club member http://www.shoclub.com/
> > > Check out my web site http://www.paul-fisher.com/
> > > Amsoil dealer http://www.paul-fisher.com/oil.htm
> > >
> > > Get $5 free from Paypal! https://www.paypal.com/refer/pal=P3XEFFBFUFKN6
> > >
> > >
> > > Quoting Jim and Debbie Leyden <jndleyden@mindspring.com>:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > > > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Paul L Fisher
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 8:33 AM
> > > > To: 92SHO
> > > > Cc: shotimes@autox.team.net
> > > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Block heater
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <snip>
> > > >
> > > > >My personal experience is that when you put a block heater in, they
> > > > usually
> > > > >leak after a year or 2. You could get a heated dipstick which will
> > > > work
> > > > almost
> > > > >as good. Another thing would be to put a good quality 0W30 oil in
> > > > (Mobil 1
> > > > and
> > > > >Amsoil sell them).
> > > >
> > > > I worked for a machine tool company that developed (in conjunction
> > > > with
> > > > Mobil) several types of low friction lubricants.  While I was working
> > > > with
> > > > the scientists from Mobil I was picking their collective brains.  They
> > > > told
> > > > me the the friction modifiers that are used in motor oil become
>unstable
> > > > if
> > > > they have more than a 20 point spread ( like 10W-30 is only twenty)  I
> > > > have
> > > > discussed this with sales reps from other oil companies and they agree
> > > > with
> > > > the Mobil guys.
> > > >
> > > > >A even more temporary/cheaper alternative is put a drop light with a
> > > > 100W
> > > > >light bulb under the hood hooked up to a timer. Have the timer turn
>on
> > > > 1-2
> > > > >hours before you plan on starting the car.
> > > >
> > > > Since heat rises...  I might suggest placing it under the pan instead
> > > > of
> > > > under the hood.  After all, we ARE trying to heat the oil, not the
> > > > hood
> > > > blanket!
> > > >
> > > > :-}
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > > '93 MTX
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