[Shotimes] Re: Baghdad has fallen bad america?!

[Kevin & Cheryl Airth]

Steve:
 What a well thought out post!! A very good read.
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> Toolman~ You make it sound like you aren't proud to be an American(I'm
sure
> you are, hopefully I just read it wrong or something).  As far as I know
the
> only person who was ever perfect was Jesus(if you believe in him) and
since
> then nobody has been perfect. Back when indians were being killed they
were
> considered inferior by the people(bigots) that came here. The indians
didn't
> want us here and they killed americans/british and neither of them wanted
the
> indians here so they killed the indians. A mostly forgoten fact is that
the
> Indians learned to scalp from the british, who were that ruthless back
then
> to actually scalp people. Also the african slaves were considered
inferior,
> property, and "sub human" but don't forget that the african tribal leaders
> were the ones selling those slaves to anyone that would buy them(basically
> tribes capturing people of another tribe and selling them). It wasn't just
> the "horrible americans" who had blood on their hands for that. Last I
> checked though none of the people I know have had slaves or fought with
> indians and it would seem our country has learned from our mistakes as I
> don't know of anyone who wants to go kill indians(or anyone else for that
> matter) for territory or own a slave(although a robot that cooked and did
> dishes would be nice). We have a military full of white/black/red/yellow
> people all fighting for our country and for us because they love THEIR
> country and want to help keep us, our families, and the rest of the world
> free to be who we want, pray to who we want, and have the ability to say
what
> we want. To say we are something less because of a history of fighting and
> blood that our very distant ancestors had done and we had quit doing and
> learned from is dumb. We now see why being intolerant of someone because
of
> race or religion is a stupid thing, that's why we're over there helping
the
> Sunnis, Shites, Muslims etc to be free. Regan going against what alot of
> people(americans and others) and building up arms in the cold war and the
SDI
> programs is what made the Berlin wall come down and get Germany to be a
> respectable country. We also liberated France in WWII. Now both of them,
> thanks to the USA have the right and freedom to disagree with us. Also I
> don't think anyone is trying to portray us as "some peace loving, all
good,
> based on Christian values" country as you said. We started a war because
> Saddam wouldn't listen to diplomacy. Obviously Hitler and the Japanese
> Emperor were not going to listen to talking either. If you look back, this
> country has had war for most of its life, I can count 10 wars since this
> country was founded without any trouble and I know there are more. As for
> being based on Christian values, as a Christian I have to say that you'll
> find that Christian values are pretty much the same as values of most
> religions(and vice versa). Honor thy father and mother, do unto others as
you
> would have done unto you, etc etc etc. Not exactly stuff that someone
should
> be judged harshly for, those are all things you should do if you are
> religious or not. This country was founded for religious freedom, that's
why
> you have Islam, Christianity, Judism(sp?), Catholicism, Mormanism, etc
etc.
> Taking this time to compare the US to hitler or Saddam is just plain
stupid.
> Yes there has been alot of killing in the past, we had a civil war for
crying
> out loud, how can that be seen as anything but a failure of communication?
It
> did help make the country better though(unless you ask someone from South
> Carolina  j/k) but just like Rome having the last of the gladiator fights
the
> US has learned from history(ours and others) and I don't think we'd ever
try
> and oppress any race or religion, and I don't think we'd try and start any
> imoral wars either. Maybe I read to much into that email, if so feel free
to
> let me know. It just struck me wrong though. To everyone, including the
> previous sender, have a great day and be happy to be living in the
greatest
> country on the face of the planet where you have the right to say and do
> whatever you want so long as it doesn't cause a danger(physicaly or
> financially) to others(pretty much true). God Bless America -Steve Bowen