[Shotimes] Cheating, was Annie goes solo too

Paul L Fisher sho@paul-fisher.com
Sun, 3 Aug 2003 14:54:17 -0500


They would not catch it. Most competitors wouldn't catch it. It is based on
trust.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Carl Prochilo" <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org>
To: "Donald Mallinson" <dmall@mwonline.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Cheating, was Annie goes solo too


> I'm not an SCCA racer, so I don't know what happens during tech
inspection.
> If you bring a car to an event and claim it to be stock, but actually had
> installed some modifications and failed to mention them, what normally
> happens?  Let me use two simple examples.
>
> 1)  96 brake upgrade covered by stock slicers.
> 2)  26mm rear ASB
>
> It would be easy to detect that the parts weren't stockers IF one actually
> takes the time to measure those parts.  But do they actually look for
> cheaters, or is it really more a matter trust and any inspection is of
> safety flavor?
>
> Cheers,
> Carl Prochilo
> 92 Ultra Red Crimson
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Donald Mallinson" <dmall@mwonline.net>
> To: "Robert Bruce" <rbruce@bellatlantic.net>
> Cc: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 1:04 PM
> Subject: [Shotimes] Cheating, was Annie goes solo too
>
>
> > I guess this is a variation of "if a tree falls in a forest
> > and there is nobody there to hear it, does it make any
> > noise?"  :)
> >
> > Actually, cheating is cheating, but it only carries a
> > penalty if someone is caught.  The cheater always knows it
> > happened, so there was some "noise" and someone was there to
> > witness it.  How that person deals with that knowledge
> > depends on their own moral code.
> >
> > Smokey Yunick was the ultimate person to push the rules, and
> > yes, cheat knowingly.  And it still goes on all the time
> > with people that think they need that edge.
> >
> > Rule books keep getting thicker as people find ways to
> > interpret the rules in different ways, and sanctioning
> > organizations have to more closely define what is and is not
> > allowed.  That is why entire buildings are filled with law
> > books!
> >
> > I once tried to buy the only Nova to run Trans-Am.  They
> > wanted too much money, but I did talk to the guy that bought
> > it.  It still had the same motor from when it ran in 66-68.
> >   the "302" days.  The motor was an all-out cheater 350
> > motor, but the car was never fast enough, even with the
> > bigger motor (probably because of inferior drivers/prep) to
> > get protested.  And so it goes.
> >
> > Don Mallinson
> >
> >
> > Robert Bruce wrote:
> > > As for motorsports, cheating isn't cheating until you get caught.  Up
to
> > > that point it is only creative interpretation of the rules.  If it
> wasn't
> > > for each racer's interpretation of the rules, the sanctioning bodies
> > > wouldn't need inspectors.
> > >
> > > Robert Bruce
> > > 93 atx
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