[Shotimes] MAF connector question

[Carl Prochilo]

Jon,  Since you don't have all the history, Ron did a great job
summarizing the past roughly 8 years of what's transpired in this area.

A lot of people tried the C&L and many had real bad problems.  Some didn't
have any problems.  It seemed like too much of a crap shoot at the time I
made my buy decision to risk getting a MAF and then having problems.

And so I have the 77mm Pro-M MAF.  A lot of people here do.  No one I can
remember ever had anything bad to say about this MAF.  I do have one
gripe, and because of this I wish I had bought the 75mm unit to bolt up to
the stock air box, but my testosterone got the better of me.  For years I
was running the 77mm without properly plumbing air from the fenderwell. 
The only real solution for this is to get a SHOShop can, which I finally
did find, so I am all set now.

So while I read with interest what C&L had to say about their MAF as
compared with the original Ford 80mm MAF offered by SHOShop, they avoid
direct comparisons with Pro-M.  And since the Pro-M 75mm is a drop in at a
buck 80, I would say that is the best "low cost" MAF upgrade you can get.

Finally, I had bought an LPM to go with the MAF as a companion, but not a
required add-on.  Getting the chip to work properly with my 77mm has been
a little tricky.  I'm going to attempt one more shot at this using a dyno
to obtain the A/F ratio.  At the present time I am not running the chip.

Cheers,
Carl Prochilo
92 Ultra Red Crimson

> It's also as was mentioned. In the beginning (like in the mid '90s), the
> options were the C&L 73mm with a Mustang sample tube (very few people
> seemed
> to get them to run right), the Pro-M 77mm (best option, but very pricey at
> that time), and the cheaper 80mm Mark VIII 80mm with an LPM.
>
> Today, the Pro-M 77mm has dropped in price, and the 75mm is a drop-in.
> IMHO,
> those are the two best options. If you already have an LPM for other
> reasons, getting the 80mm Ford is OK, but I don't believe it's worth
> having
> an LPM just to run the MAF.
>
> I bought my car with a calibrated (by Pro-M) 80mm Ford MAF, and an 80mm
> MAF
> and a couple of LPMs. I'm now running with the calibrated 80mm, and will
> sell the 80mm and LPMs as I won't ever use them again.
>
> Ron Porter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Jonathan Zane KC2ENA
> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 3:04 PM
> To: 'Carl Prochilo'
> Cc: Shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] MAF connector question
>
>
> Understandable Carl, but I'll revert back to my original thought...  I'm
> making 300+ HP with a 73mm and a 65mm TB on my Stang.  I also can't see
> how
> an 80mm would be able to sample the air more accurately than any other
> good
> quality MAF.  Actually the larger ones tend to have driveability problems
> because the air flowing past the sample tube at low RPM isn't moving fast
> enough.  More volume = less air speed.  I'm not saying that if I put an
> 80mm
> on my Stang I would gain little bit, but I feel that it wouldn't be
> anything
> substantial.  So why deal with these the problems on an SHO if you can put
> a
> 73mm or 77mm on it, bolt on your stock sensor and go about your way?  I
> get
> the feeling some people go over board with their SHOs.  I posted a message
> on a Mustang list about the 80mm MAF on a SHO and I got a lot of chuckles.
> These cars are expensive enough without having to send your oversized MAF
> to
> some guy to have it calibrated correctly.  Just my 2 cents.
>
> Jonathan Zane
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Carl Prochilo
>>
>>
>> NP, we all learned this info sometime through reading or
>> asking questions.
>>
>> Here is some basic information.  If you apply a BOS setup to
>> your SHO, expect to go from about 220HP to about 250HP.
>> Throw a 3.2L in and you'll get another 10HP, so about 260HP.
>> To get these numbers you need to increase the airflow into
>> the engine by using a larger properly calibrated MAF.  I'm
>> not a drag racer so I can't tell you how this affects times.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Carl Prochilo
>> 92 Ultra Red Crimson
>>
>
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