[Shotimes] subframe bolts torque

Mike.Wojton@us.o-i.com Mike.Wojton@us.o-i.com
Thu, 11 Dec 2003 14:25:01 -0500


Yeah, well, I have a clunking too.  That's probably the end links.  I
added that to the ever-growing list.  ; )


Mike Wojton
Toledo, Ohio

-'95 White MTX
   '96 Brake Upgrade

Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.




"Bruce Malachuk" <bmalach1@nycap.rr.com> wrote on 12/11/2003 02:21:05 PM:

> I had a clunking noise from my front sway link after I got my AL sfb's 
on
> the car. Turns out the ball was popping outta the socket. 
> 
> 
> Bruce Malachuk
> 
> 94 Opal Frost MTX 
> 
> 93 Green MTX winter beater
> 
> 93 Black ATX stripped for spare parts
> 
> 95 Sliver Frost SE (SLO) waiting for it's AX4S SHO tranny
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net 
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Mike.Wojton@us.o-i.com
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 1:37 PM
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] subframe bolts torque
> 
> I know it's not a broken spring.  Among other things, I changed struts 
this
> summer, so I know they're not.  I changed mounts too.
> With all the height I gained in the front end, I don't think it's the 
strut
> mounts.  Besides, it doesn't do it when turning, just when Starting from 
a
> dead stop and when shifting gears.  It sounds like it's coming from the
> passenger side.  Had that motor mount replaced but that wasn't it.  I'll
> check subframe bolts.  The only things I didn't change this summer was 
sway
> bar end links and bushings.  Don't think it could be them though.  But
> maybe.
> 
> 
> Mike Wojton
> Toledo, Ohio
> 
> -'95 White MTX
>    '96 Brake Upgrade
> 
> Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> shotimes-admin@autox.team.net wrote on 12/11/2003 12:08:19 PM:
> 
> > I had a groanimg noise in my 93 when new. There was a TSB the adds a
> spacer
> > between the strut tower and strut assy. This eliminated the rubbing 
> > interference and the noise.
> > 
> > Sometimes the spring will twist and chatter when turning and is
> sometimes
> > cured for a while by greasing the spring ends and rubber mates.
> > 
> > Look for a broken spring.
> > 
> > John W.
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <Mike.Wojton@us.o-i.com>
> > To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:38 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] subframe bolts torque
> > 
> > 
> > > Well I haven't replaced them.  I'm trying to track down a horrid 
> > > groaning noise I hear coming from the front end.  Just had a motor 
> > > mount replaced and that wasn't it.  The subframe was out when the 
> > > clutch was replaced this past summer and I never went back to check 
> > > the torque on the bolts.
> > >
> > >
> > > Mike Wojton
> > > Toledo, Ohio
> > >
> > > -'95 White MTX
> > >    '96 Brake Upgrade
> > >
> > > Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Bruce Malachuk" <bmalach1@nycap.rr.com> wrote on 12/11/2003 
> > > 11:10:09
> AM:
> > >
> > > > No problem. Hehe but you need some AL SFB's, everyone needs AL 
> > > > SFB's
> :-)
> > > >
> > > > Make sure that you recheck the TQ on the subframe bolts after
> driving
> > > around
> > > > for a week or so. I have seen instances where stock, delrin, and
> > > aluminum
> > > > bushings have the SF bolts loosen up a little after driving 
around. 
> They
> > > > loosen after settling into place, so about 200 miles is a good
> number to
> > > > re-TQ the bolts. Just like lugnuts, which reminds me I gotta re-TQ
> my
> > > snow
> > > > rims
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bruce Malachuk
> > > >
> > > > 94 Opal Frost MTX
> > > >
> > > > 93 Green MTX winter beater
> > > >
> > > > 93 Black ATX stripped for spare parts
> > > >
> > > > 95 Sliver Frost SE (SLO) waiting for it's AX4S SHO tranny
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> > > > On Behalf Of Mike.Wojton@us.o-i.com
> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:48 AM
> > > > To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> > > > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] subframe bolts torque
> > > >
> > > > No, stock.  Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mike Wojton
> > > > Toledo, Ohio
> > > >
> > > > -'95 White MTX
> > > >    '96 Brake Upgrade
> > > >
> > > > Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Bruce Malachuk" <bmalach1@nycap.rr.com> wrote on 12/11/2003
> 10:44:05
> > > AM:
> > > >
> > > > > Yup. Less your doing AL SFB's then I tq them down to 100-110 
> > > > > ft/lb
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Bruce Malachuk
> > > > >
> > > > > 94 Opal Frost MTX
> > > > >
> > > > > 93 Green MTX winter beater
> > > > >
> > > > > 93 Black ATX stripped for spare parts
> > > > >
> > > > > 95 Sliver Frost SE (SLO) waiting for it's AX4S SHO tranny
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > > > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> > > > > On Behalf Of Mike.Wojton@us.o-i.com
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:16 AM
> > > > > To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> > > > > Subject: [Shotimes] subframe bolts torque
> > > > >
> > > > > What's the torque spec for the rear subframe bolts?  My service 
> > > > > cd only
> > > > has
> > > > > the front, at 55-75 ft/lbs.  The same?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike Wojton
> > > > > Toledo, Ohio
> > > > >
> > > > > -'95 White MTX
> > > > >    '96 Brake Upgrade
> > > > >
> > > > > Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.
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