[Shotimes] subframe bolts torque
Bruce Malachuk
bmalach1@nycap.rr.com
Fri, 12 Dec 2003 03:13:56 -0500
LOL I got pissed off at my Opal and just bought all new Moog front end
stuff, but then never got to put some of it on. LCA's with ball joints,
inner and outter tie rod ends, front sway links (got them on the car). Come
spring it's new springs and struts, new TPR all around, PC'd subframe, and
anything else I might be able to replace in the suspension.
Here is an off the wall thought as to the noise. Engine dampener failure?
Don't gas charged thing like that make wier noises when they are toast.
Under acceleration might make enough noise to reverb into the pass cabin.
I'm outta ideas :-)
Bruce Malachuk
94 Opal Frost MTX
93 Green MTX winter beater
93 Black ATX stripped for spare parts
95 Sliver Frost SE (SLO) waiting for it's AX4S SHO tranny
-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Mike.Wojton@us.o-i.com
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 2:25 PM
To: shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] subframe bolts torque
Yeah, well, I have a clunking too. That's probably the end links. I added
that to the ever-growing list. ; )
Mike Wojton
Toledo, Ohio
-'95 White MTX
'96 Brake Upgrade
Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.
"Bruce Malachuk" <bmalach1@nycap.rr.com> wrote on 12/11/2003 02:21:05 PM:
> I had a clunking noise from my front sway link after I got my AL sfb's
on
> the car. Turns out the ball was popping outta the socket.
>
>
> Bruce Malachuk
>
> 94 Opal Frost MTX
>
> 93 Green MTX winter beater
>
> 93 Black ATX stripped for spare parts
>
> 95 Sliver Frost SE (SLO) waiting for it's AX4S SHO tranny
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Mike.Wojton@us.o-i.com
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 1:37 PM
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] subframe bolts torque
>
> I know it's not a broken spring. Among other things, I changed struts
this
> summer, so I know they're not. I changed mounts too.
> With all the height I gained in the front end, I don't think it's the
strut
> mounts. Besides, it doesn't do it when turning, just when Starting
> from
a
> dead stop and when shifting gears. It sounds like it's coming from
> the passenger side. Had that motor mount replaced but that wasn't it.
> I'll check subframe bolts. The only things I didn't change this
> summer was
sway
> bar end links and bushings. Don't think it could be them though. But
> maybe.
>
>
> Mike Wojton
> Toledo, Ohio
>
> -'95 White MTX
> '96 Brake Upgrade
>
> Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.
>
>
>
>
> shotimes-admin@autox.team.net wrote on 12/11/2003 12:08:19 PM:
>
> > I had a groanimg noise in my 93 when new. There was a TSB the adds a
> spacer
> > between the strut tower and strut assy. This eliminated the rubbing
> > interference and the noise.
> >
> > Sometimes the spring will twist and chatter when turning and is
> sometimes
> > cured for a while by greasing the spring ends and rubber mates.
> >
> > Look for a broken spring.
> >
> > John W.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <Mike.Wojton@us.o-i.com>
> > To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:38 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] subframe bolts torque
> >
> >
> > > Well I haven't replaced them. I'm trying to track down a horrid
> > > groaning noise I hear coming from the front end. Just had a motor
> > > mount replaced and that wasn't it. The subframe was out when the
> > > clutch was replaced this past summer and I never went back to
> > > check the torque on the bolts.
> > >
> > >
> > > Mike Wojton
> > > Toledo, Ohio
> > >
> > > -'95 White MTX
> > > '96 Brake Upgrade
> > >
> > > Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Bruce Malachuk" <bmalach1@nycap.rr.com> wrote on 12/11/2003
> > > 11:10:09
> AM:
> > >
> > > > No problem. Hehe but you need some AL SFB's, everyone needs AL
> > > > SFB's
> :-)
> > > >
> > > > Make sure that you recheck the TQ on the subframe bolts after
> driving
> > > around
> > > > for a week or so. I have seen instances where stock, delrin, and
> > > aluminum
> > > > bushings have the SF bolts loosen up a little after driving
around.
> They
> > > > loosen after settling into place, so about 200 miles is a good
> number to
> > > > re-TQ the bolts. Just like lugnuts, which reminds me I gotta
> > > > re-TQ
> my
> > > snow
> > > > rims
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bruce Malachuk
> > > >
> > > > 94 Opal Frost MTX
> > > >
> > > > 93 Green MTX winter beater
> > > >
> > > > 93 Black ATX stripped for spare parts
> > > >
> > > > 95 Sliver Frost SE (SLO) waiting for it's AX4S SHO tranny
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> > > > On Behalf Of Mike.Wojton@us.o-i.com
> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:48 AM
> > > > To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> > > > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] subframe bolts torque
> > > >
> > > > No, stock. Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mike Wojton
> > > > Toledo, Ohio
> > > >
> > > > -'95 White MTX
> > > > '96 Brake Upgrade
> > > >
> > > > Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Bruce Malachuk" <bmalach1@nycap.rr.com> wrote on 12/11/2003
> 10:44:05
> > > AM:
> > > >
> > > > > Yup. Less your doing AL SFB's then I tq them down to 100-110
> > > > > ft/lb
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Bruce Malachuk
> > > > >
> > > > > 94 Opal Frost MTX
> > > > >
> > > > > 93 Green MTX winter beater
> > > > >
> > > > > 93 Black ATX stripped for spare parts
> > > > >
> > > > > 95 Sliver Frost SE (SLO) waiting for it's AX4S SHO tranny
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > > > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> > > > > On Behalf Of Mike.Wojton@us.o-i.com
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:16 AM
> > > > > To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> > > > > Subject: [Shotimes] subframe bolts torque
> > > > >
> > > > > What's the torque spec for the rear subframe bolts? My
> > > > > service cd only
> > > > has
> > > > > the front, at 55-75 ft/lbs. The same?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike Wojton
> > > > > Toledo, Ohio
> > > > >
> > > > > -'95 White MTX
> > > > > '96 Brake Upgrade
> > > > >
> > > > > Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.
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