[Shotimes] bushings = lower front end?

[Bruce Malachuk]

>From what I remember of some conversation, shiving the sfb's to bring the
engine higher will yes raise the SF. But in doing so that brings the rack
higher, the wheels really still stay in the same place right? I mean even
with the subframe lifted up a little bit, they still have the same forces
from the springs pushing them down, keeping them kinda in the same place.
This is what was explained to me from a few ppl that wanted me to shave sets
of bushings for them. I don't know, I hate the idea of changing the geometry
of where ford wanted the engine, shaved SFB or no, I think the engine was
put where it was put for a reason.

I still want to see g3 knuckles on a g2. I'd be down for a set of them as I
was gonna do wheel bearings on my Opal come spring, I'd rather drop a few
pounds by swapping knuckles and then just sell off my 94 ones.

Bruce Malachuk

94 Opal Frost MTX 

93 Green MTX winter beater

93 Black ATX stripped for spare parts

95 Sliver Frost SE (SLO) waiting for it's AX4S SHO tranny


-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Kirk Doucette
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 8:23 AM
To: Bruce Malachuk; 'Nathan Brown'; shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] bushings = lower front end?

"I thought it was to raise the
subframe closer to the body and therby raising the rack a little to bring
back the slight angle to the tie rod ends"

HUH? Your moving the whole Subframe up! You would not get any difference in
rack mounting points in relation to the tie rods. The best way to do that
would be install the Gen 3 Al Knuckles, the tie rod perches are higher. ( so
I hear)

As far as the SFb thickness for the gen 2-3 swap, I made them out of wood as
a template, in the Hat design vs the ring design and was not that difficult.
Im not sure about hanging a clutch though because I have not had and wont
for a while any time to look.

Kirk J Doucette
NESHOC President
Stormtrooper-97 White

-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Bruce Malachuk
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 11:55 PM
To: 'Nathan Brown'; shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] bushings = lower front end?

I've had ppl ask me about shaving a set of the AL SFB's that I have made and
sell. I never understood this entirely. I thought it was to raise the
subframe closer to the body and therby raising the rack a little to bring
back the slight angle to the tie rod ends. But isn't raising the engine
counterproductive to keeping the center of gravity low?

Kirk how thick of a bushing would be needed to make a V6 fit in a Gen 3
body? Are there places on the gen 3 body for a clutch predal and all thator
would the car still have to be an ATX?


Bruce Malachuk

94 Opal Frost MTX

93 Green MTX winter beater

93 Black ATX stripped for spare parts

95 Sliver Frost SE (SLO) waiting for it's AX4S SHO tranny


-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Nathan Brown
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 10:12 PM
To: shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: [Shotimes] bushings = lower front end?

after thinking about it a little more, I realized that the strut mounting
points (strut to car, strut to spindle) and spring height/stiffness are what
really dictate the ride height. Shaving the subframe bushings wouldn't lower
the car, but would instead add positive camber. Something I'm not interested
in..

Still, there's gotta be somebody who tried it... :)


Nathan
93 ATX

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