[Shotimes] Oil...

[Steve Weinrich]

I do computer service and cabling work at the Schaeffers facility in St
Louis.  It definitely is not a "store brand".

They are a "specialty lubricants" manufacturer.

The building is pretty neat.  Much of the factory is an old warehouse that
dates to the mid-late 1800s.  Massive oak beams and posts and all wood
flooring that has been soaked for decades with POL products.  I fear that if
it would ever catch fire, the flames would be seen for mile and miles.

Steve

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kerby Haltom" <kerbyh@netzero.net>
To: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>; "'Kirk Doucette'"
<Kirk.doucette@verizon.net>
Cc: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 9:12 PM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Oil...


> I don't even care that much but I did bother to look and see who Schaeffer
> Lubricants is...
>
> They ain't no store brand.
>
>  From their website:
>
> In 1839 Nicholas Schaeffer founded Schaeffer Manufacturing Co., which has
> manufactured lubricants in America longer than any other company.
>
>
> You should like them Ron, they make lots of different kinds of Dino Juice!
:-)
>
> Kerby
>
> At 06:33 PM 12/20/03 -0500, Ron Porter wrote:
> >I suspect that all of the store-brand oils (Coastal at AZ,
Schaffer(?????)
> >and Murray's are all bottled by one of the majors, anyway.
> >
> >Ron Porter
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Kirk Doucette [mailto:Kirk.doucette@verizon.net]
> >Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 5:51 PM
> >To: kerbyh@netzero.net; ronporter@prodigy.net
> >Cc: krazgeo@jps.net; shotimes@autox.team.net
> >Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Oil...
> >
> >
> >Yeah SCHAFFER oils.. WHO the HELL is SCHAFFER?   Honestly??  Who are
they?
> >
> >I like the way he does stuff, but because he works for or gets moneys
from
> >an OIL company his points are MOOT.
> >
> >True stories.... I have two ATX cars out there that I serviced, both
needing
> >PUMPS (whining BADLY) I did a flush and fill with adding the lucas in the
> >pan first. And both cars are still out there. One has 20k plus on it..
So
> >I think the trans stuff is pretty good, I have also used the fuel
treatment
> >in my 93 winter car and it smoothed out the idle a lot! I mean I was
> >surprised.. Also every PS flush on every car gets the rack and Pinion
> >treatment with great results.  SO far.
> >
> >But Im not sure if I would want it in the motor.. maybe I should throw
some
> >in the 93 to see what it does. It not like I don't have any motors lying
> >around :)
> >
> >Kirk J Doucette
> >NESHOC President
> >Stormtrooper-97 White
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On
> >Behalf Of kerbyh@netzero.net
> >Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 9:00 AM
> >To: ronporter@prodigy.net
> >Cc: kerbyh@netzero.net; krazgeo@jps.net; shotimes@autox.team.net
> >Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Oil...
> >
> >He's not a wrench jockey.  It from the analysis and comparisons of the
oil
> >in both its original "virgin" state, and after use.  I think what it
really
> >shows is that even "bad" oil ain't too shabby these days.  If you've
never
> >looked at the site, its pretty interesting.  You should see what the
Lucas
> >additive does to gear oil, talk about bad...
> >
> >Kerby
> >
> >-- "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net> wrote:
> >Well, with (now over 200K) on my well-driven-hard-on-a-daily basis SHO
that
> >I sold with over 180K, Valvoline did just fine (it was the most-common
oil
> >that I used). If that's the opinion of
Bob-The-Oil-Opinioned-Wrench-Jockey,
> >I humbly submit that his opinion isn't worth a flying fornication from my
> >standpoint. And basically it tells me that I can forget about wasting my
> >time reading about any of his other "opinions".
> >
> >Hey, I should start a website and become the SME (Subject Matter Expert)
> >that says the opinion of oil guys is worth what you paid for it!!
> >
> >Any performance engine that endured 7K runs 5-10 times a day for 10 years
> >and 180K miles is proof enough for me about how an oil will perform.
> >
> >Ron Porter
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> >On Behalf Of kerbyh@netzero.net
> >Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 9:36 AM
> >To: krazgeo@jps.net
> >Cc: shotimes@autox.team.net
> >Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Oil...
> >
> >
> >According to bobistheoilguy.com Valvoline is some of the worst oil you
can
> >buy...
> >
> >Kerby
> >
> >-- "George Fourchy" <krazgeo@jps.net> wrote:
> >On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:54:13 GMT, Steve Tatro wrote:
> >
> > >I will say the pictures of the Mobil1 engines showed them being clean,
no
> >yellowing or browning as with the Pennzoil (yuck) engines.
> >
> >Valvoline yellows them too.
> >
> >George
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