[Shotimes] Bozo Auto Mechanics

[Ron Porter]

They will quote a job on "book" hours....except if they haven't done that
service before, it may take then much longer than the book hours the first
time.....so they lose money.

They want stuff that they can knock off in half or less of the book or flat
rate.

Ron Porter

-----Original Message-----
From: matt S [mailto:poissonverte2@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 3:16 AM
To: ronporter@prodigy.net; neno@sbcglobal.net; shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Bozo Auto Mechanics


I wonder though.. They get paid by what.. book hours and how many vehicles 
they can get in and done under that?? Why work on an engine which TAKES 
hella long time to work on when I can get 4 cars in the shop for "brake 
noises", which only is spraying shit on them to shut them up, then actually 
working on a SHO.. anyhoo.
I think its $$$$ and a bit of WTF?

Matt


>From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
>To: "'Neno Albert'" <neno@sbcglobal.net>, <shotimes@autox.team.net>
>Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Bozo Auto Mechanics
>Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:29:30 -0500
>
>Well, a couple of things:
>
>When someone says that they won't work on it, they are really doing you a
>favor. Better than using your car as OTJ training. I had this when I wanted
>a better-than-factory black paint job on my '89 SHO. A few shops did not
>want to do the work.
>
>And, yes, I know that there are ASE and other car techs out there who can
>"connect the dots" (so to speak) and can analyze things, but I would say
>that a LOT more are just robots that repeat what they've learned, and can't
>apply the logic process. Kinda like working on an assembly line. On a
>semi-related topic, that's why I put very little stock in an unknown
>mechanic's opinion about oils, performance upgrades, etc, etc. They are as
>much of a victim of rumors as anyone.
>
>Nothing in a car is scary ONCE YOU'VE DONE IT. Hey, there was no one 
>getting
>into SHO work for many years....but then many of the low-buck owners of
>well-used SHOs HAD to, or else their cars would be parked until they could
>pay someone! Mechanics work against the clock, and "learning" the repair on
>a new vehicle is not cost-effective.
>
>Just because your family practitioner is an MD doesn't mean that you will
>want him to do bypass surgery.
>
>Ron Porter
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
>On Behalf Of Neno Albert
>Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 3:42 PM
>To: shotimes@autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Bozo Auto Mechanics
>
>
>SHO's are NOT hard to work on at all, IMO. The worst part about them would
>be the lack of air
>tools and heat to break stuff loose. even with all the work you go through
>to remove the
>waterpump, it's just time consuming and nothing much more then that. Crown
>Vics, Caprices, and
>Grand Marquis' aren't exactly a walk through the park! Especially not
>minivans. I'm not bashing
>the guy, but it seems he's just a tit-bit too picky...
>
>If i were to walk into a shop and have them tell me they won't work on my
>car, I'd probably inform
>EVERYONE i know to avoid them. That's the problem with our tech world
>nowadays, no one works on
>anything challenging, which is scary because nothing is becoming easier or
>work-friendly as the
>clock ticks on! If they don't want to work on it, it's probably because
>they're not knowledgable
>enough to do so. Other then internal engine work, clutch/ATX work, and the
>timing belt, the SHO is
>a rather work friendly car. the waterpump is simply removal of accessory
>belts, pulleys, timing
>belt covers, and a rebuild/whole pump assembly removal and install. How can
>that possibly freak
>someone out? Maybe they hate not having air tools involved with their class
>"A" work! :-)
>
>Neno
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