OT Re: [Shotimes] web page

Ron Nottingham nottingham@alltel.net
Wed, 5 Feb 2003 16:47:17 -0500


Plus the current crop of "programmers" don't code efficiently, and I have
yet to come across any code that has any sort of comments about what the
code does, or how to use it!  Now, I'm not saying that there aren't any
younger "programmers" that DO put in comments and code efficiently, there
must be some out there somewhere, but some of the crap that I have had to
fix, there has never been any comments on what is going on or what the
"programmer" was trying to do, and this "programmer" was usually a younger
person, or someone that "taught themselves" programming.

Ron N. - Dalton, GA
90 SHO
"It takes a man to suffer ignorance and smile"

----- Original Message -----
From: <mkelley1@gt.rr.com>


Yeah, those were the days.  I remember debugging some bootstrap assembly
code by using a oscilliscope to count the number of memory accesses the CPU
was making so I could see how many bytes it went into the code before
dying.  How many young programmers can claim to have used an oscilliscope
to debug software?  Now all I do is project status reports and update my
PTS outlook for a bunch of people who've never programmed in their lives
(if you've ever seen "Office Space", you know what I'm talking about!).

Mark

Original Message:
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From: Ron Nottingham nottingham@alltel.net
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 16:14:27 -0500
To: shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: OT Re: [Shotimes] web page


Yeah, programming was much more fun back in the day than it is now.
Programs were much more efficient then than they are now.  Sure, when you
went to compile a program, you would go out and get a burger, and some more
beer, and still wait while it compiled (which is why you would always watch
those Monty Python movies on Beta), always took forever as compared to
today, when you go to compile, you press a button and when you get back from
taking a leak, your program is compiled and ready to go.  Also, hardware
back then...  At least it wasn't out of date the day after you bought it :-)

Ahhh, you WIMP, using a static strap, real coders never use a static
strap!!!

Ron N. - Dalton, GA
90 SHO
"It takes a man to suffer ignorance and smile"

----- Original Message -----
From: "Justin Schick" <jschick@aafp.org>


> I assumed the same, until Ron went spouting stuff about "copy con"!
>
> Sad thing is, I had more fun in this biz back then than I do these
> days...
>
> Justin
> dead 92
>
> >>> "David P" <jpotter8@bellsouth.net> 02/05/03 03:02PM >>>
> Bah! I just reach into my pc case, grab the electrons, and re-arrange
> them
> on the fly. Be sure to use a static-strap.
>
> I thought it was safe to assume, since he wanted a utility, that
> free-basing
> the code was not an option.
>
> David P
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