[Shotimes] SHO is down... hope i didn't f' it up too bad...
Bill Murray
fordsho@cloud9grafx.com
Wed, 8 Jan 2003 19:32:43 -0500
They are easy, as long as you can get the top bolt threaded the first
time you try. After that your arm starts to get tired from holding the
starter up and your neck starts to hurt from holding your head at a
weird angle.
Bill "I hate changing starters when its 28 degrees outside, twice."
Murray
-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim and Debbie
Leyden
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 7:25 PM
To: shotimes@autox.team.net; Floyd E. Vasquez
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] SHO is down... hope i didn't f' it up too bad...
Floyd,
Replacing the starter is a total breeze. I have found that nine times
out
of ten, when a starter fails it is the brushes that are the problem.
You
can purchase a set of brushes and brush holder for your SHO from NAPA.
IIRC
they are about ~$30 for the brush ring and brushes and they are simple
to
install.
Jim
'93 MTX
working on my third brush set
----- Original Message -----
From: "Floyd E. Vasquez" <fvasquez@vbnmedia.com>
To: "SHOtimes" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] SHO is down... hope i didn't f' it up too bad...
> Dave, Steve, Ron and Randy:
>
> THANKS for your posts. Ground wire was connected. Negative battery
cable
> looks okay. Strangely enough, I was able to start it today with a
jump..
> pulled it into the garage and onto some ramps. Looks like the
antifreeze
> leak has been plugged, but I'm spilling oil from somewhere (i'm
guessing
> rear valve cover gaskets must not have set properly (the weekend is
shot
> again). Anyway I took the battery back to Sears and asked them to
test it
> under load. Battery is good. So, it looks like you guys are right -
> starter is the prime suspect. I'll check SHOforum for feedback on
starter
> installation... anyone know if its easy? ("easy" being incredibly
relative
i
> know) (smile)
>
> Floyd
> NMSHO
> White 92
> http://nmshoclub.com/
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Kegel" <d.kegel@attbi.com>
> To: "Floyd E. Vasquez" <fvasquez@vbnmedia.com>;
<shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] SHO is down... hope i didn't f' it up too
bad...
>
>
> > Sounds like you need a starter, assuming of course that the battery
is
> > really good. Make sure and have it load tested. If it passes, it's
the
> > starter. I guess it would make sense to make sure the cables are
tight
> and
> > clean as well.
> >
> > Dave Kegel
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Floyd E. Vasquez" <fvasquez@vbnmedia.com>
> > To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: January 07, 2003 11:03 PM
> > Subject: [Shotimes] SHO is down... hope i didn't f' it up too bad...
> >
> >
> > > warning: long post outlining circumstances that left my SHO
temporarily
> > > inoperable. any feedback will be much appreciated.
> > >
> > > Saturday morning I decided I'd finally replace the plug wires on
my 92
> > SHO;
> > > figured I'd put some new intake gaskets on too, clean up the
intake
> ports,
> > > replace the plugs, etc. too. Used the MN SHOnut 60K tape to guide
me
> > through
> > > the process.
> > >
> > > By Sunday night, it was ready to try and start. The battery had
been
up
> > on a
> > > metal shelf. When I put it back in the car there was not enough
power
> to
> > turn
> > > the car over. Tried jumping it with my wife's car, no luck. Put
her
> > battery
> > > in the SHO and it started.. wouldn't idle though, and it was
spewing
> > > antifreeze. Shut if off and called it a night.
> > >
> > > With fresh eyes on Monday, I realized that I had missed one of the
> coolant
> > > hoses coming off the throttle body and another was a little loose.
> Fixed.
> > > Noticed that I had failed to connect a connector on the right hand
side
> of
> > the
> > > intake manifold, connected. I had my battery charged during the
day,
> but
> > > still, it wouldn't turn over. Lights in the car worked, etc., but
not
> > enough
> > > juice to turn it over. SO, I hooked up jumper cables to my wife's
car
> > again
> > > and this time the SHO roared to life. It immediatley achieved a
stable
> > idle.
> > > I let it idle for a few minutes and inspected for coolant leaks -
all
> > clear,
> > > and when I revved it, sounded better than ever.
> > >
> > > So, I took it for a test ride. Felt great, very stable. I
started
real
> > > slow.. after a block or so there seemed to be some type of
electrical
> > event -
> > > a momentary pause, a yellow warning light flashed on the dash, but
the
> car
> > > continued without a hitch. It was night and my headlights were
normal,
> > > signals worked, and it felt amazing. I drove 1 to 2 miles; near
the
end
> > of
> > > the ride I got into it a little and it was running great -smooth
as
silk
> > from
> > > idle to 6000 rpm...
> > >
> > > Came back home and parked in drive way, idle stable as can be,
normal
> > temp, no
> > > warning lights.. noticed LOTs of white smoke coming from under the
hood.
> > I
> > > shut off the car and opened the hood, lots of white smoke.. didn't
> > recognize
> > > the smell. I had cleaned up with the intake manifold with intake
> cleaner
> > and
> > > there was probably still some coolant hanging around the block -
so it
> may
> > > have been that stuff burning off. I decided to put it in the
garage
and
> > > finish the troubleshooting the today, but there was not enough
power
to
> > turn
> > > over the engine. This time a jump wouldn't do it, so I just left
it
in
> > the
> > > driveway.
> > >
> > > Today I had the battery checked, its fine. I put it back in the
car,
> > interior
> > > lights are bright, key chime dinging, etc. Turn the key and its
like
> all
> > the
> > > power is sucked out of the system. won't turn over. Ran the
codes
and
> > got
> > > 114 and 116 (ACT and ECT out of self-test range). I ran the test
> twice -
> > 1st
> > > time the fan was real weak; 2nd time the fan roared to life and
the
> > interior
> > > lights were bright again. Turn the key to start it up, and it
shuts
> right
> > > down.. no turnover.. lights go way dim.. checked the fuses.. all
are
> > fine.
> > >
> > > And so she sits out in the driveway... anyone experience
something
> > similar?
> > >
> > > Floyd
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