[Shotimes] SHO is down... hope i didn't f' it up too bad...

[Jim and Debbie Leyden]

Floyd,
Replacing the starter is a total breeze.  I have found that nine times out
of ten, when a starter fails it is the brushes that are the problem.  You
can purchase a set of brushes and brush holder for your SHO from NAPA.  IIRC
they are about ~$30 for the brush ring and brushes and they are simple to
install.

Jim
'93 MTX
working on my third brush set


----- Original Message -----
From: "Floyd E. Vasquez" <fvasquez@vbnmedia.com>
To: "SHOtimes" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] SHO is down... hope i didn't f' it up too bad...


> Dave, Steve, Ron and Randy:
>
> THANKS for your posts.   Ground wire was connected.  Negative battery
cable
> looks okay.  Strangely enough, I was able to start it today with a jump..
> pulled it into the garage and onto some ramps.  Looks like the antifreeze
> leak has been plugged, but I'm spilling oil from somewhere (i'm guessing
> rear valve cover gaskets must not have set properly (the weekend is shot
> again).  Anyway I took the battery back to Sears and asked them to test it
> under load.  Battery is good.  So, it looks like you guys are right -
> starter is the prime suspect.  I'll check SHOforum for feedback on starter
> installation... anyone know if its easy? ("easy" being incredibly relative
i
> know)  (smile)
>
> Floyd
> NMSHO
> White 92
> http://nmshoclub.com/
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Kegel" <d.kegel@attbi.com>
> To: "Floyd E. Vasquez" <fvasquez@vbnmedia.com>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] SHO is down... hope i didn't f' it up too bad...
>
>
> > Sounds like you need a starter, assuming of course that the battery is
> > really good.  Make sure and have it load tested.  If it passes, it's the
> > starter.  I guess it would make sense to make sure the cables are tight
> and
> > clean as well.
> >
> > Dave Kegel
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Floyd E. Vasquez" <fvasquez@vbnmedia.com>
> > To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: January 07, 2003 11:03 PM
> > Subject: [Shotimes] SHO is down... hope i didn't f' it up too bad...
> >
> >
> > > warning: long post outlining circumstances that left my SHO
temporarily
> > > inoperable.  any feedback will be much appreciated.
> > >
> > > Saturday morning I decided I'd finally replace the plug wires on my 92
> > SHO;
> > > figured I'd put some new intake gaskets on too, clean up the intake
> ports,
> > > replace the plugs, etc. too.  Used the MN SHOnut 60K tape to guide me
> > through
> > > the process.
> > >
> > > By Sunday night, it was ready to try and start.  The battery had been
up
> > on a
> > > metal shelf.  When I put it back in the car there was not enough power
> to
> > turn
> > > the car over.   Tried jumping it with my wife's car, no luck.  Put her
> > battery
> > > in the SHO and it started.. wouldn't idle though, and it was spewing
> > > antifreeze.  Shut if off and called it a night.
> > >
> > > With fresh eyes on Monday, I realized that I had missed one of the
> coolant
> > > hoses coming off the throttle body and another was a little loose.
> Fixed.
> > > Noticed that I had failed to connect a connector on the right hand
side
> of
> > the
> > > intake manifold, connected.  I had my battery charged during the day,
> but
> > > still, it wouldn't turn over.  Lights in the car worked, etc., but not
> > enough
> > > juice to turn it over.  SO, I hooked up jumper cables to my wife's car
> > again
> > > and this time the SHO roared to life.   It immediatley achieved a
stable
> > idle.
> > > I let it idle for a few minutes and inspected for coolant leaks - all
> > clear,
> > > and when I revved it, sounded better than ever.
> > >
> > > So, I took it for a test ride.  Felt great, very stable.  I started
real
> > > slow.. after a block or so there seemed to be some type of electrical
> > event -
> > > a momentary pause, a yellow warning light flashed on the dash, but the
> car
> > > continued without a hitch.  It was night and my headlights were
normal,
> > > signals worked, and it felt amazing.  I drove 1 to 2 miles; near the
end
> > of
> > > the ride I got into it a little and it was running great -smooth as
silk
> > from
> > > idle to 6000 rpm...
> > >
> > > Came back home and parked in drive way, idle stable as can be, normal
> > temp, no
> > > warning lights.. noticed LOTs of white smoke coming from under the
hood.
> > I
> > > shut off the car and opened the hood, lots of white smoke.. didn't
> > recognize
> > > the smell.  I had cleaned up with the intake manifold with intake
> cleaner
> > and
> > > there was probably still some coolant hanging around the block - so it
> may
> > > have been that stuff burning off.  I decided to put it in the garage
and
> > > finish the troubleshooting the today, but there was not enough power
to
> > turn
> > > over the engine.  This time a jump wouldn't do it, so I just left it
in
> > the
> > > driveway.
> > >
> > > Today I had the battery checked, its fine.  I put it back in the car,
> > interior
> > > lights are bright, key chime dinging, etc.  Turn the key and its like
> all
> > the
> > > power is sucked out of the system.  won't turn over.  Ran the codes
and
> > got
> > > 114 and 116 (ACT and ECT out of self-test range).  I ran the test
> twice -
> > 1st
> > > time the fan was real weak; 2nd time the fan roared to life and the
> > interior
> > > lights were bright again.  Turn the key to start it up, and it shuts
> right
> > > down.. no turnover.. lights go way dim..  checked the fuses.. all are
> > fine.
> > >
> > > And so she sits out in the driveway...  anyone experience something
> > similar?
> > >
> > > Floyd
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