[Shotimes] AMSOIL By-pass filter

[Steve Tatro]

There is another "expert".  Although you may not regard him as highly as
you do Doug, Scott Patterson (known well to those who frequent the SHO
Forum) has torn apart many, many V6 SHO engines.  He, too, has seen the
effects of what sometimes occurs with SHO engines that are fed nothing
but synthetic oils.  He has pictures of his cam lobes, at 265k miles, as
well as many others that have been on strict diets of dino oil, and has
seen no signs of cam lobe wear (on well-maintained engines).  On the
other hand, he's seen numerous synthetically-lubed cam lobes that show
significant wear (isn't even just a little bit considered significant?).

Now, I don't think I've ever heard Scott say anything bad about any
particular oil.  He just notes what he's seen, advises people to look at
the condition of his engine with 265k miles, and lets them make their
own educated decisions.

I still like to use Mobil 1 in the winter.  I like knowing the oil is
ready to move and lubricate after my car sits out in the cold all day.

No way would I use it all year.  It appears there are no problems with
using good dino oil (Scott uses Castrol GTX exclusively, although he may
have recently switched to the high-mile formula) and if my car sees 265k
miles and the engine is in the condition Scott's is, I'll be a happy
camper.  By the way, Scott just replaced his rod bearings, although he
heard no noises indicating he should, and found surprisingly (in my
opinion) little wear, when compared to other pictures I've seen passed
around. 

Carpe diem,

Steve Tatro
Red/Black '93 with 164k miles
Cincinnati, Ohio
www.picturetrail.com/stevetatro


-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul L Fisher
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 12:52 PM
To: Jim and Debbie Leyden; shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] AMSOIL By-pass filter


Let me guess, local expert was Doug Lewis?

He is the only person I have heard bad mouth synthetics. My cams look
good after 169K miles on synthetic. The rod bearings have been replaced
but I abused my oil several times (ran 50,000 miles on one filter and
one oil change).

Paul L Fisher
'93 Ford Taurus SHO Crimson Clearcoat ATX 169K Build date 11/18/1992
- K&N Panel filter, Tokico Struts, Eibach Springs, Dynomax cat-back,
Holley 190lph fuel pump, FPS rebuilt ATX, 26mm rear sway bar,
Performance-Plus Stainless Steel Y-pipe, Delrin sub-frame bushings,
Amsoil Series 2000 0W-30 oil, Amsoil Synthetic ATF. '00 Ford Explorer
XLT 5.0L V8 AWD Oxford White Clearcoat 39K Build date 11/19/1999
- Amsoil Series 2000 0W-30 oil, K&N Fuel Injection Performance Kit

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim and Debbie Leyden" <jndleyden@mindspring.com>
To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>; <dmall@mwonline.net>
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] AMSOIL By-pass filter


> > When your cat converters failed, was it because of a bad thermostat?
>
> The cause of the cat failure is unknown.
>
> >In your note you seem skeptical of synthetics,
> > but you had a car go 200,000 before a non-oil related  failure took 
> >out the motor.  And you said you used  synthetics in it. So I don't 
> >get your comment above about  doubting the use of synthetics in 
> >SHO's?  Your note reads  like you used synthetics in it, but I 
> >suspect you meant to  say you used regular oil and changed it at 3000

> >mile  intervals....right?
>
> Correct, after going back and reading it, it guess I worded that 
> poorly.
>
> As far as being a skeptic about synthetics is concerned,  I used Mobil

> 1
in
> all my cars until I got the SHO.  Before I purchased the SHO I took it

> to
a
> local SHO guru and had an evaluation done on the car to see if it was
worth
> the purchse price.  At that time I was warned off of synthetics in the

> SHO motor and shown several valve shims and camshafts that had failed.

> I was told at the time that the only common denominator between the 
> failures was the use of synthetic oil.  Further, I used to know a 
> professional
motorcycle
> racer that felt that synthetic oil and motorcycle engines just did not
mix.
> He also cited several failures on the top end of bucket/shim style 
> motors that he attributed to synthetic oils. I'd love to be convinced 
> otherwise as I have always felt that that synthetics are better all 
> the way around, but the idea of trashing my SHO motor just plain 
> scares the heck out of me.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
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