[Shotimes] AMSOIL By-pass filter

Fri, 10 Jan 2003 13:25:22 -0600

OK, that now makes 2. I have personally never heard of Scott but I'll take
your word for it.

Paul L Fisher
'93 Ford Taurus SHO Crimson Clearcoat ATX 169K Build date 11/18/1992
- K&N Panel filter, Tokico Struts, Eibach Springs, Dynomax cat-back, Holley
190lph fuel pump, FPS rebuilt ATX, 26mm rear sway bar, Performance-Plus
Stainless Steel Y-pipe, Delrin sub-frame bushings, Amsoil Series 2000 0W-30
oil, Amsoil Synthetic ATF.
'00 Ford Explorer XLT 5.0L V8 AWD Oxford White Clearcoat 39K Build date
11/19/1999
- Amsoil Series 2000 0W-30 oil, K&N Fuel Injection Performance Kit

SHO Club member http://www.shoclub.com/
Check out my web site http://www.paul-fisher.com/
Amsoil dealer http://www.paul-fisher.com/oil.htm

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Tatro" <stevetatro_shotimes@att.net>
To: "'Paul L Fisher'" <sho@paul-fisher.com>; "'Jim and Debbie Leyden'"
<jndleyden@mindspring.com>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 1:20 PM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] AMSOIL By-pass filter

> There is another "expert".  Although you may not regard him as highly as
> you do Doug, Scott Patterson (known well to those who frequent the SHO
> Forum) has torn apart many, many V6 SHO engines.  He, too, has seen the
> effects of what sometimes occurs with SHO engines that are fed nothing
> but synthetic oils.  He has pictures of his cam lobes, at 265k miles, as
> well as many others that have been on strict diets of dino oil, and has
> seen no signs of cam lobe wear (on well-maintained engines).  On the
> other hand, he's seen numerous synthetically-lubed cam lobes that show
> significant wear (isn't even just a little bit considered significant?).
>
> Now, I don't think I've ever heard Scott say anything bad about any
> particular oil.  He just notes what he's seen, advises people to look at
> the condition of his engine with 265k miles, and lets them make their
> own educated decisions.
>
> I still like to use Mobil 1 in the winter.  I like knowing the oil is
> ready to move and lubricate after my car sits out in the cold all day.
>
> No way would I use it all year.  It appears there are no problems with
> using good dino oil (Scott uses Castrol GTX exclusively, although he may
> have recently switched to the high-mile formula) and if my car sees 265k
> miles and the engine is in the condition Scott's is, I'll be a happy
> camper.  By the way, Scott just replaced his rod bearings, although he
> heard no noises indicating he should, and found surprisingly (in my
> opinion) little wear, when compared to other pictures I've seen passed
> around.
>
> Carpe diem,
>
> Steve Tatro
> Red/Black '93 with 164k miles
> Cincinnati, Ohio
> www.picturetrail.com/stevetatro
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul L Fisher
> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 12:52 PM
> To: Jim and Debbie Leyden; shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] AMSOIL By-pass filter
>
>
> Let me guess, local expert was Doug Lewis?
>
> He is the only person I have heard bad mouth synthetics. My cams look
> good after 169K miles on synthetic. The rod bearings have been replaced
> but I abused my oil several times (ran 50,000 miles on one filter and
> one oil change).
>
> Paul L Fisher
> '93 Ford Taurus SHO Crimson Clearcoat ATX 169K Build date 11/18/1992
> - K&N Panel filter, Tokico Struts, Eibach Springs, Dynomax cat-back,
> Holley 190lph fuel pump, FPS rebuilt ATX, 26mm rear sway bar,
> Performance-Plus Stainless Steel Y-pipe, Delrin sub-frame bushings,
> Amsoil Series 2000 0W-30 oil, Amsoil Synthetic ATF. '00 Ford Explorer
> XLT 5.0L V8 AWD Oxford White Clearcoat 39K Build date 11/19/1999
> - Amsoil Series 2000 0W-30 oil, K&N Fuel Injection Performance Kit
>
> SHO Club member http://www.shoclub.com/
> Check out my web site http://www.paul-fisher.com/
> Amsoil dealer http://www.paul-fisher.com/oil.htm
>
> Get $5 free from Paypal! https://www.paypal.com/refer/pal=P3XEFFBFUFKN6
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim and Debbie Leyden" <jndleyden@mindspring.com>
> To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>; <dmall@mwonline.net>
> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 11:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] AMSOIL By-pass filter
>
>
> > > When your cat converters failed, was it because of a bad thermostat?
> >
> > The cause of the cat failure is unknown.
> >
> > >In your note you seem skeptical of synthetics,
> > > but you had a car go 200,000 before a non-oil related  failure took
> > >out the motor.  And you said you used  synthetics in it. So I don't
> > >get your comment above about  doubting the use of synthetics in
> > >SHO's?  Your note reads  like you used synthetics in it, but I
> > >suspect you meant to  say you used regular oil and changed it at 3000
>
> > >mile  intervals....right?
> >
> > Correct, after going back and reading it, it guess I worded that
> > poorly.
> >
> > As far as being a skeptic about synthetics is concerned,  I used Mobil
>
> > 1
> in
> > all my cars until I got the SHO.  Before I purchased the SHO I took it
>
> > to
> a
> > local SHO guru and had an evaluation done on the car to see if it was
> worth
> > the purchse price.  At that time I was warned off of synthetics in the
>
> > SHO motor and shown several valve shims and camshafts that had failed.
>
> > I was told at the time that the only common denominator between the
> > failures was the use of synthetic oil.  Further, I used to know a
> > professional
> motorcycle
> > racer that felt that synthetic oil and motorcycle engines just did not
> mix.
> > He also cited several failures on the top end of bucket/shim style
> > motors that he attributed to synthetic oils. I'd love to be convinced
> > otherwise as I have always felt that that synthetics are better all
> > the way around, but the idea of trashing my SHO motor just plain
> > scares the heck out of me.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jim
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