[Shotimes] Radar/Laser Detectors

[D Potter]

Well, Don, if this situation of two SHO's being next to each other isn't a
good enough test, then neither are any tests that have been performed on the
units. If radar waves behave in odd ways in uncontrolled situations, then no
amount of testing will tell you which system performs best on the road. I
guess that's why my $50 unit works as well as any $300 unit.

Then again, when I worked for unca sam as a RADAR technician, I was always
told that there was no such thing as uncontrolled situations, but that
failures would come from unobservant users.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Donald Mallinson" <dmall@mwonline.net>
To: <shotimes-admin@autox.team.net>
Cc: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Radar/Laser Detectors


> And you proved the point,  they were NOT in the same car at
> the same exact location. Next to each other is not being in
> the same spot.  And one result does not a "test" make.
>
> You must have the portable K-40 ($299.00)? and have it
> mounted so it looks through the windshield?    I did some
> research and they now have a windshield mount unit, but when
> most people think of K-40 they think of the grill mount, no
> way it could be mounted the same as a Val 1.  Was anything
> else plugged into the circuits of either unit that could
> lower voltage?  There is a lot more to a true test than just
> being in the same vicinity in different cars.
>
> And had both units lived the exact same life?  Been dropped
> the same places, times?  Point is you can't guarantee the
> performance of two units that have lived different lives.
> Could be a fault in the Val 1, I never said they were
> perfect, but My Valentine built units have sure been a LOT
> more dependable and durable than anything else I have owned.
>
> As you can read in any of the tests done by reputable shops.
>   Radar waves behave in odd ways in uncontrolled situations.
>   Highways with signs, bridges, etc, etc, provide a widely
> varied "test" situation.
>
> I have no doubt the result you mention was as you describe,
> but My point is that you can't make an informed opinion
> about ALL K-40's or Val 1's or any other detectors based on
> that type of sample.
>
> The K-40 is a very good radar detector, and in their remote
> mount models, they have virtually the same direction finding
> ability of the Valentine, Their windhield unit does not have
> this capability though, and I am sure that is only because
> of patent laws.
>
> Don M.
>
> Kirk Doucette wrote:
> > Captin Don said:
> >
> > "Were the two units you mention in the exact same vehicle at
> > the exact same time?  NO.  Unless you are running the two
> > units under the exact same situation, and both units are new
> > or in the same condition, you can't really compare.  How was
> > each mounted?  A lot of factors enter into the performance
> > equation."
> >
> > Factors were he had a Black 99 and I have a White (white rules :)) 97 I
was
> > almost passing him (139mph or there abouts) when he noticed and started
> > screaming (slick top). As soon as he said that and I said (HUH?) mine
went
> > off.  After he let the line of SHO's go we discussed it and the Val 1
never
> > went off. He was a bit perturbed. They were mounted in the same location
in
> > the car, same car (make - model) same speed, same weather, same 98
degree
> > air , both had the AC on, and the rest of the normal parts counter info,
PB,
> > PS, AC, Cruise. That is with out the best kind of test, hands down.
> >
> > Im not busting you because I think both are good, I could afford the K40
at
> > the time and that's why I got it. It still works killer and still never
been
> > pulled over with it ON (have been other time because I forgot).
> >
> > Read the test they are all pretty much the same, Looks wise I would
rather
> > have the Val 1 but IMHO its just to expensive.
> >
> >
> > Kirk J Doucette
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