[Shotimes] 3.2 swap into a MTX

[Ian Fisher]

Those locating dowels are also used for the motor mount brackets on the
block. If you can't get the one on the front of the block out, Yamaha
gave us a few other places to try to outsource them from. If that fails,
buying new ones is probably the easiest way to go. There is also a stud
that needs to be removed and relocated. The 93+ blocks seem to have all
of the same castings so that these holes are already present and
threaded to be used in either an atx or mtx.

Ian
93 3.2 in my bedroom still!
93 3.0 somewhere outside in my car 

-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of don donelson
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:39 AM
To: shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] 3.2 swap into a MTX


I have done several 3.2 conversions ....  opps  .... told myself I
wouldn't do my morse code ! ha

The shotimes faq's is very helpful but there are a few bits of
additional information that is required to do the change over.

When I do a engine conversion .... I have found the easiest way to
remove the motor is to remove the tranny and motor as one assembly. The
subframe never comes out there for no alignment is needed.

One point that I don't think is covered in shotimes is there is a
dowel/steel pin that is used by the MTX timing belt tensioner has to be
relocated on the 3.2 block.  Those pins are real hard to get out but the
pin in the 3.2 has to be removed and re-inserted 2 inches to the right
to line up for the mtx tensioner. Along with this,  you have to remove
the stud that holds the atx tensioner in place and remove it. This
stud/bolt  I believe is a different length ( might be wrong ) from the
one used by the MTX tensioner and you should use the the MTX bolt/stud.
I have bought several after market of the smaller dowel/pins  that are
close in size and have red loc-tited them in versus using the original
pins that I have mangled getting out !

Besides this I believe the swap as per shotimes faq's is pretty straight
forward. Also I do use the atx mounting bracket for the coil and just
order 3.2 wires. Personal preference. I also drill and tap holes for the
mtx motor mount which makes my job a lot easier to hoist the new motor
into my customers car.


Lastly ... with a motor out .. even a motor with very low miles ( my 3.2
has 73,000 miles on it ) it is still advisable to replace all seals;
front and rear mains and check rod bearings for wear. New oil pan seals,
new cps and a new waterpump ( assuming the old mtx waterpump is aged )
to me are the basic must have.

In my case, on my personal motor, I took the 3.2 heads and had  set of
3.0 heads put on that were ported and polished. This is an exception for
most 3.2 conversions. Most will use the existing heads but I do
recommend taking your old 3.0 intake cams out and use them versus the
3.2 cams.


dond
91 Super SHO II

All work & assembly done by yours truly

-3.2 ATX block
-FPS hi-flow heads w/  over sized valves
-Stage I cams
-SHONUT adjustable timing sprockets
-Ported intake & runners
-Ported and extrude honed exhaust manifolds
-Hi-flow catless Y pipe
-Hi-flow exhaust
-BBB
-SHO SHOP T.B.
-SHONUT phenolic spacers
-Quaife
-CAI
-UDP
****
-Cowl hood
-Momo 17x8 rims
-Police grill
-Custom two tone interior
-Complete sunpro gauges
oil temp / water temp / oil pressure
****
-Tokico shocks/Eibach springs
-Polyurethane at all corners
-Solid-sub frame bushings
-Frame stiffners
-Adjustable rear control arms
-Battery located in trunk for better weight distrubution
****
-12" rotors at all four corners
-Steel braided lines
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim and Debbie Leyden <jndleyden@mindspring.com>
To: James White <greensho@crown.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 4:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] 3.2 swap into a MTX


> To make a long story short...
>
> The easiest way is to swap out short blocks.  They are a bolt in 
> interchange.
>
> Jim
> '93 MTX
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James White" <greensho@crown.net>
> To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] 3.2 swap into a MTX
>
>
> > The link about a 3.2 motor into a MTX came up with "Warning: Failed
> opening
> > 'modules/News/articl.php' for inclusion
> > (include_path='.:/php/includes:/usr/share/php') in 
> > /home/virtual/site2/fst/var/www/html/php-bin/modules.php on line 14"
> >
> > Could it be that I being seriously computer impared did something 
> > wrong,
> or
> > could it be that this windows stuff is just doing its typical stuff 
> > of screwing up?
> >
> > The link won't work.  What did I do wrong?
> >
> > And I also tried this link with a full cut and paste...
> >
> > regards, Jim White - greensho@crown.net
> > Valparaiso, Indiana
> > '93  5 SPEED   276k few mods
> > '95  5 SPEED   232k lots of mods
> > "double clutch"  it's good for both you and your SHO
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -----
> > From: "Don McKinnon (AST)" <dmckinnon@asttechlabs.com>
> > To: "Erik Balser" <masho95@charter.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:02 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] 3.2 swap into a MTX
> >
> >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.shotimes.com/php-bin/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=ar
ticl
> > > e&sid=167
> > >
> > > Don McKinnon
> > > 95 MTX - White/Mocha 89k miles
> > > Stage 1 Power Package with Stage 1cams
> > > Canyon Carver Road/Race Suspension
> > > Quaife & HiRevs Competition Clutch
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net 
> > > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Erik Balser
> > > Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:39 PM
> > > To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> > > Subject: [Shotimes] 3.2 swap into a MTX
> > >
> > >
> > > I know this is been gone over before, but maybe you all could do a
quick
> > > refresh for me.  What needs to be changed to swap a 3.2L into an 
> > > MTX?
> Don
> > D.
> > > did this right? Maybe he could give me a quick summary or maybe
someone
> > else
> > > has a website with the info that you could point me towards. 
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > '95 MTX
> > > masho95
> > > http://webpages.charter.net/masho95
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