[Shotimes] No start!! Help

[Shaun & Meggen Livermore]

Well there's more to the problem.  I'll give you the long story....

The car has been sitting on and off for the past 2 years.  I've been
looking at it for the past three months, and started it, and even drove
it about a month ago.  Then on the day that I was supposed to pick it up
it wouldn't start.  The owner, a friends, friend, came out to look at it
that day to try to get it started.  He replaced the fuel filter and said
that the fuel pump was fairly new.  He tried the starting fluid and it
would run just as I tried.  The car also had an alarm in it and he
thought maybe that was the problem so he ripped it out. In doing so he
didn't take the time to reconnect all the wires.  Either way he couldn't
get it running.  The following day I had it towed over to my house so I
could work on it.  I was thinking maybe the gas had gone bad so I
drained all of it out of the tank, running it through the fuel filter,
and refilled it with some new gas, but that didn't do the trick.  I then
was worried about the unconnected wires so I spent all day and night
trying to reconnect all the wires that appeared to be spiced.  Then when
I took off the back seat I became really confused.  There had been a
wire, he must have put in there, connecting the fuel pump directly to a
30 amp fuse in the main fuse panel upfront.  I wasn't sure if this was
for the alarm or what, so I asked him, and he said he didn't put it
there.  I tried undoing the spiced wire and reconnecting the factory
wires, but when I do so the fuel pump does NOT run at all.  When that
spiced wire IS connected the pump runs but all the time.  I then thought
maybe it was the injectors so I took them out and they appear to be
fine.  Even though the splicing with the fuel pump is odd I don't
understand how it can run one day and a month later it wouldn't.  It sat
since I test drove it and nobody touched it since.  I don't know what to
do.  The intake is still all apart and I haven't put the injectors back
in yet.  It's a disaster.  Help!!

Thanks again,
Shaun Livermore     














Shaun,

Is the intake back on the car now?

You're right, when you turn the key to the RUN position, the fuel pump
is
supposed to come on for just a couple of seconds to build pressure in
the
system.  Can you find the schraeder valve nestled among the intake
runners?
(Looks like a valve stem like you'd put air in a tire.)  With key in
RUN,
wrap a rag around this stem and press it lightly.  If a little fuel
sprays
out, you have fuel pressure.

The engine computer decides when to fire the injectors.  That is a ways
down
on the list of probable causes.

Tell us more about the history of this car, if you know it.  It has
never
been able to stay running, since you bought it?  Is that why it was
sold?
What parts, especially engine sensors, have been replaced recently?
What
about the fuel filter?

Joseph van Oss
La Crosse, WI



----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun & Meggen Livermore" <smlivermore@wi.rr.com>
To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 8:51 AM
Subject: [Shotimes] No start!! Help


Hello everyone,

I hope one of you can help me with this problem.  I have a 91' + with
127k miles that I just bought.  The only thing is that it will not run.
If you spray starting fluid in the throttle body it will run for a few
seconds, so I thought maybe it was fuel related.  I took off the intake
and can hear gas running through the fuel rails and inspected the
injectors which appear to be clean.  It seems as if there might be
something electronically wrong which is not turning the injectors on.
Also when you turn the key to "On" the fuel pump run continuously, and
I'm not sure if it is supposed to do that.  I thought it was just
supposed to prime the fuel injection.  Anyway I was wondering if there
is some type of fuel relay of fuse that could be blown stopping my
injectors to fire?  A wiring diagram would be excellent if any one has
one!  Please any suggestions would be of great help, as I haven't been
able to drive it since I bought it, and I'm getting really anxious.

Thanks again,

Shaun Livermore

1991 SHO Plus
Sussex, WI 53089
262-844-1123
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