[Shotimes] Tires for convention/rest of the summer

[Paul L Fisher]

Summer aren't dry only. They just don't like snow and cold. I have the
Firestone SZ-50's and they suck below 40 degrees but they are good in dry
and wet. The only tire that is really dry only is the BF Goodrich KD (K
dry). The Summer version is KDW (K dry wet) and the all-season is KDWS (K
dry wet snow).

The Potenza S-03 are equivalent to the SZ-50's.

Paul L Fisher
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: <BJamesjr@aol.com>
To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Tires for convention/rest of the summer


> It certainly would seem logical that a more expensive "dry" tire would do
better than a less expensive all-season tire, especially from the same
manufacturer.
>
> I went to tirerack, input the size that I wanted (225/55-16) and looked at
the list of 76 available tires in that size.  I picked the ones that I was
interested in and did some comparisons.  I want to be sure I don't slide
around in wet weather so I concentrate on all-season tires.  I picked the
AVS DB S2 and the Potenza 950.  When you do a comparison you get a table of
ratings in categories such as "handling rating", "dry traction", "wet
traction", "ride comfort" "noise comfort", and "wear".  These 2 tires scored
so much higher than all of the other all season tires that I got curious and
compared them with non- all season tires.  The AVS DB S2 has better scores
than the AVS Sport in all of these categories.  I compared to a high-rated
tire, the Potenza S-03 Pole Position, and the AVSDBS2 is less in the
traction/handling categories, but is fairly close.
>
> Well we all like comparing numbers and saying that this one is better
because it scores 8.9 vs. 8.7.  However there is some question as to where
these numbers come from and can they be compared that closely.  I don't
think they are that scientific and I don't think they can be compared that
way (just my guess).  It could be that the high ratings for an all-season
tire are from someone who has lesser expectations from their tires than the
ratings for a max. performance tire from someone who demands a high level of
performance.
>
> Of course since I'm the one saying this then I should not have implied
that the AVSDBS2 compares to the ES100.  Oh well, the numbers are there.  We
can always compare them and use them however we want.  I don't mind all
season tires since I look for wet traction and I'm willing to give up some
dry performance for it.
>
> > The AVS DBs are all-season tires. ES100s and AVS Sports are not. I went
and
> > read the reviews. Rate "higher ratings" as you will, but I don't see it
that
> > way at all. The AVS DB people say they are "fast & aggressive" drivers
(I
> > think Tire Rack needs different categories!!), but the
> > reviews talked about
> > "less noise" and other meaningless remarks as such.
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