[Shotimes] Link to Sway bar info?

[Ron Porter]

So you do have the 21mm on the rear? That is definitely the "what kinda crap
do we have left in the parts bin" setup that the '95s got. They must have
started cleaning out the garbage late in the '94 model year.

Ron Porter 

-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Bruce Malachuk
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 5:49 PM
To: Don McKinnon (AST); shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Link to Sway bar info?


"My 95 MTX had the 20.6/21 setup stock and it sucked" - Thats what I have on
my 94 and it sucks too.

Bruce
94 Opal Frost MTX
93 Black ATX - winter beater then parts car :-)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Don McKinnon (AST)" <dmckinnon@asttechlabs.com>
To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 3:57 PM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Link to Sway bar info?


> My 95 MTX had the 20.6/21 setup stock and it sucked.  So much weight was
on
> that outside tire it was screaming for life every time it was pushed.  I'm
> am no advanced driver and do not road course or autox, but sure pushed it
> hard in the old office park "road course" up in Indy were I worked at.
That
> is not what I wanted for the car and it did not stay that was very long as
> the first suspension mod was to add the 26mm RASB to the SHO.  Man that
sure
> seems like a long time ago!
>
> Don McKinnon
> 95 MTX - White/Mocha 91k miles
> Stage 1 Power Package with Stage 1cams
> Canyon Carver Road/Race Suspension
> Quaife & HiRevs Competition Clutch
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Ron Porter
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 3:39 PM
> To: 'Dave Kegel'; shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Link to Sway bar info?
>
>
> Yep. And, the '92-'94 24/23 combos still do handle pretty decently.
>
> Tires, the driver, and spring rates are still key. As is unibody rigidity.
>
> Ron Porter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Dave Kegel
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 3:06 PM
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Link to Sway bar info?
>
>
> I just realized that the worst combination of the bunch (as far as
> understeer) is the setup that came on the '92 - '94 MTX cars.  Worse even
> than all the ATX combos.
>
> No wonder adding a 26mm rear bar and poly bushings livens these cars up so
> much.
>
> Dave
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Mike.Wojton@us.o-i.com>
> To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: July 11, 2003 10:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Link to Sway bar info?
>
>
> > That would be this:
> >
> > 24mm/23mm        1.34  you have got to be kidding
> >
> > 19mm/19mm         1.13     girlie mahn
> > 20.6mm/21mm      1.04
> > 22mm/23mm          .94
> >
> > 26mm/28mm         .84         safe predictable understeer
> > 24mm/26mm         .82
> > 19mm/21mm          .75
> > 20.6mm/23mm      .72
> >
> > 24mm/28mm         .61         good overall balance
> > 22mm/26mm         .58
> >
> > 19mm/23mm         .52        Gen III optimal
> >
> > 20.6mm/26mm      .44        on the tail happy side
> > 22mm/28mm         .42
> >
> > 20.6mm/28mm      .33        sick oversteer
> > 19mm/26mm         .32
> >
> > 19mm/28mm         .24         yeah, right
> >
> >
> > Mike Wojton
> > Toledo, Ohio
> >
> > -'95 Green MTX  3/01-1/03
> >    ShoShop y-pipe
> >
> > -'95 White MTX
> >    '96 Brake Upgrade
> >
> > Gonads and strife.  Wheee!
> >
> >
> >
> > shotimes-admin@autox.team.net wrote on 07/11/2003 10:51:57 AM:
> >
> > > There is some sway bar stuff here, but there's another page (maybe it
> > was
> > > email) that John Hrinsin put together with all the combinations and
> > ratios.
> > >
> > > http://www.panix.com/~awinbow/sho/suspension.html
> > >
> > > Dave
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bruce Malachuk" <bmalach1@nycap.rr.com>
> > > To: "SHOtimes" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: July 11, 2003 9:43 AM
> > > Subject: [Shotimes] Link to Sway bar info?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Anyone have the link to the page that has a listing of our sway bar
> > > combos?
> > > > I'm adding my 24/26 today but was wondering if it might be too much
on
> > my
> > > car
> > > > for use at Blackhawk.
> > > >
> > > > I think I have a 19 up front and a 21 in the back on my 94 MTX.
Gotta
> > > break
> > > > out the digital caliper and make sure.
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