[Shotimes] Re: CID problem - 214 Code

Donelson Don 1badsho@mail.tnh.net
Sat, 12 Jul 2003 10:28:11 -0400


carl


congratulations on a job well done ! 

pretty soon u will be on your first engine overhaul ! 

I can recall my earlier years in doing what I consider now mundane tasks that years past seemed daunting.

It takes the proper tools .. a great list like this and most important expierence

dond

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Carl Prochilo" <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org>
Date:  Sat, 12 Jul 2003 00:14:41 -0400

>Thanks to Justin, Don D, and R.F. for their advice and council.  With some
>help from my 15 year old son (getting time to look for another SHO), I
>finally got the Camshaft Position Sensor replaced.  EEC Self-test also
>checks out clean after the R&R.
>
>First of all, the replacement part from AZ is just fine.  I compared it with
>the one I removed and it is exactly the same as the one sold under the Wells
>brand.  I imagine there is only one manufacturer for this part.  The cost is
>about 2x less than getting it from a local Ford wholesaler.  If you are
>interested, the Ford part number that came off my 92 is E9DE-12A112-AA, and
>the one printed on the Wells box is F134,  The original part lasted me 11
>years and a little over 200K miles.
>
>One observation and question about the old part.  After I removed it, I
>examined it and see where the sensor pick-up is.  Some metal shavings were
>sitting on the head and I cleaned it off.  Could that have contributed to
>the erratic operation?  And if I had cleaned it off and replaced, might it
>have continued to work fine?
>
>About the actual repair.  Geesh, what a lousy time I had doing this.  Sure
>removing the crossover tube gives some more clearance, but not nearly
>enough.  The shop manual also suggests removing the engine torque strut, but
>it didn't look that would help much at all so I didn't bother.  At times I
>felt I should have disconnected the power steering reservoir to get those 2
>hoses out of the way.  There isn't nearly enough room to work on getting at
>the screws.  If you want to make a mental note, I found that a 7/32 socket
>for a 1/4 inch drive set works on the hex head of the screw.  I did not
>overtorque the screws as was suggested by everyone.
>Part way into the repair I managed to drop and lose a small ratchet.  Turned
>out it was sitting on a ledge just below and behind the sensor.  Lost over
>an hour on that alone.  But eventually the job was done.  In the near future
>I will post a few pics of the part and location of the sensor on the engine
>for newb's like me that want to try and get frustrated.
>
>Cheers,
>Carl Prochilo
>92 Ultra Red Crimson
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Carl Prochilo" <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org>
>To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
>Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 1:23 PM
>Subject: CID problem - 214 Code
>
>
>> Had what appears to be a classic hard start symptom associated with a
>> failing camshaft position sensor.  A while back I had posted that there
>was
>> stumble problem with my SHO and had pulled the codes.  A few of you had
>> suggested at the time to replace the CID sensor.  I decided to hold off
>for
>> a bit to be sure.  Today at the mall the car was left out in the sun,
>> probably low 90s outside.  Went to start it and it had the hard starting
>> problem.  Turned the ignition off, back on, and car started begrudgingly
>> (tach read zero during this time), the CEL popped on, then tach started
>> working and and then the CEL shut off.  When I got home I ran the KOEO
>test
>> to pull the code and got a 214.  So I'm going to replace the CID sensor
>now.
>>
>> FYI, the PIP or crankshaft position sensor, is brand new, so I can pretty
>> much discount that as the problem.
>>
>> I didn't find a writeup on Shotimes for how to replace (I understand this
>is
>> fairly easy to do, but I haven't ever done it before myself).  I'd
>> appreciate it if someone would e-mail me their favorite instructions.
>>
>> Thanks and Cheers,
>> Carl Prochilo
>> 92 Ultra Red Crimson
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