[Shotimes] Re: Shotimes digest, Vol 1 #2399 - 10 msgs
Your Name
schaefer01@core.com
Mon, 14 Jul 2003 13:14:38 -0400
I have a 95MTX and the thin rubberized molding around the windows are
corrodid/rusted. How do I exchange them and where can I get new ones?
Do they come off when you remove the larger blacked out moldings?
ewschaefer (schaefer01@core.com)
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> 1. RE: WTB, NEW EATC (Dave Kegel)
> 2. RE: Unknown connector (Mark Mucher)
> 3. Re: WTB, NEW EATC (Paul L Fisher)
> 4. Removing ext. door handles - Easiest method? ('89 SHO)
(HomeboyNorm@aol.com)
> 5. replacing rusty trim (Kevin Galuska)
> 6. Re: WTB, NEW EATC (Adam J. Green)
> 7. Re: WTB, NEW EATC (Paul L Fisher)
> 8. Re: Unknown connector (Steve Weinrich)
> 9. RE: Unknown connector (Mark Mucher)
> 10. Re: VAPS problem & question (Leigh Smith)
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> Message: 1
> From: "Dave Kegel" <d.kegel@comcast.net>
> To: "'SHOTimes'" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] WTB, NEW EATC
> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 07:24:08 -0500
>
> The '95 has the good buttons. '94s still have the ones that crack.
>
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul L Fisher
> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 7:12 AM
> To: Adam J. Green; SHOTimes
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] WTB, NEW EATC
>
>
> When you say modify, what do you mean? As a '94 owner, you should
> already have the sturdy button ones, at least that is the kind I
> replaced my '93's cracked buttons with.
>
> Paul L Fisher
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 2
> From: "Mark Mucher" <mmucher@bellsouth.net>
> To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Unknown connector
> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 08:25:34 -0400
>
> I would call it a pressure switch - In any case it goes to the switch
on top
> of the receiver/drier/accumulator/etc.
>
> I just checked!
>
> mm in sunny FL
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-
admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Steve Weinrich
> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 8:08 AM
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Unknown connector
>
> The 89 did not have a High pressure switch.
>
> By color code, it's not the AC clutch or the AC Cyling switch, either.
>
> The coolant level sensor is supposed to have RED/WHITE and BLACK
wires.
> This is the closest I can find to your report.
>
> Steve
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim and Debbie Leyden" <jndleyden@mindspring.com>
> To: "Erik Balser" <masho95@charter.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 3:38 AM
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Unknown connector
>
>
> > Without having an '89 to look at I'm going to take a guess and say
it
> > is
> the
> > A/C High Side Pressure switch. Take a look and see if it is on a
> > switch that is connected to the top of a black can or into the side
of
> > a aluminum tube.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Erik Balser
> > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 1:37 AM
> > To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> > Subject: [Shotimes] Unknown connector
> >
> >
> > Wondering if anyone new off hand what a certain connector went to.
On
> > a
> 89
> > the connector has a solid green and red wires on it and it's right
to
> > the left of the coolant recovery bottle and lower down. The
connector
> > is in the
> same
> > harness as the positive PCM wire that comes from the battery. I'm
> > very curious as to what this is because when I was replacing part
of
> > the
> positive
> > PCM wire from the battery I found that the red and green wires
towards
> > the connector were stripped about and 1/8" and twisted together and
> > the connector was plugged into whatever it goes to. Anyone know
what
> > the connector
> plugs
> > into, and why they might have been crossed? Thanks for any help!
>
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> Message: 3
> From: "Paul L Fisher" <sho@paul-fisher.com>
> To: "Dave Kegel" <d.kegel@comcast.net>, "'SHOTimes'"
> <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] WTB, NEW EATC
> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 07:31:06 -0500
>
> Ahhh.... OK. I guess I got the '95s. I was confused since it had a F4
(94)
> part prefix.
>
> Anyhow, to the OP, just go to www.fordpartsonline.com and order a new
one
> there. Ask for a '95 EATC.
>
> Paul L Fisher
> '93 Ford Taurus SHO Crimson Clearcoat ATX 175K Build date 11/18/1992
> - K&N Panel filter, Tokico Struts, Eibach Springs, Dynomax cat-back,
Holley
> 190lph fuel pump, FPS rebuilt ATX, 26mm rear sway bar, Performance-
Plus
> Stainless Steel Y-pipe, '96 brake upgrade, Proportioning valve plugs,
Delrin
> sub-frame bushings, Amsoil Series 2000 0W-30 oil, Amsoil Synthetic
ATF.
>
> SHO Club member http://www.shoclub.com/
> Check out my web site http://www.paul-fisher.com/
> Amsoil dealer http://www.paul-fisher.com/oil.htm
>
> Get $5 free from PayPal!
https://www.paypal.com/refer/pal=P3XEFFBFUFKN6
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Kegel" <d.kegel@comcast.net>
> To: "'SHOTimes'" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 7:24 AM
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] WTB, NEW EATC
>
>
> > The '95 has the good buttons. '94s still have the ones that crack.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul L Fisher
> > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 7:12 AM
> > To: Adam J. Green; SHOTimes
> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] WTB, NEW EATC
> >
> >
> > When you say modify, what do you mean? As a '94 owner, you should
> > already have the sturdy button ones, at least that is the kind I
> > replaced my '93's cracked buttons with.
> >
> > Paul L Fisher
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Shotimes@autox.team.net
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> Message: 4
> From: HomeboyNorm@aol.com
> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 08:33:44 EDT
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: [Shotimes] Removing ext. door handles - Easiest method? ('89
SHO)
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am in the process of repainting my Project '89 completely including
all the
> jambs, and the engine bay.
>
> I am going to remove as much trim parts as I can to paint the car
thoroughly.
> I was thinking to remove the door handles to paint them individually,
as well
> as to get better paint coverage on the doors.
>
> What would be the best/easiest method on removing the factory rivets
that
> hold the exterior door handles on? And to reinstall the handles
without the
> rivets somehow?
>
> Please help, and thank you.
>
> Thanks, Norm
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 5
> From: "Kevin Galuska" <whitegen1sho@hotmail.com>
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 12:51:36 +0000
> Subject: [Shotimes] replacing rusty trim
>
> I went to the junkyard yesterday and got the stainless steel trim
from a LX
> to replace the rusty trim on my gen 1. I need to paint the stainless
trim
> black and was wondering what is the best way to prep the trim to
accept
> paint? I also noticed while removing the trim from the junkyard car
that the
> little plastic/metal nuts, that look like flowers before they open,
which
> hold the side panel on don't really seem to lend themselves to reuse.
Should
> I go to ford to get them or just use a washer and a nut from the
hardware
> store? If I should go to ford does anyone have the part number? The
other
> thing I would need are the plastic ring clips that hold the stainless
trim
> piece to the panel. Any Ford number for those?
> Thanks in advance,
> Kevin
> ksg132@psu.edu
>
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> Message: 6
> From: "Adam J. Green" <ajgreen@epix.net>
> To: "SHOTimes" <shotimes@autox.team.net>, "Paul L Fisher"
> <sho@paul-fisher.com>
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] WTB, NEW EATC
> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 08:54:30 -0400
>
> I don't want the 95 unit. It looks the same as the unit I have. I
want to do
> the upgrade as posted in the shoforum so I can have the 1999+ unit in
my 94
> SHO. And since these units are so new, JY's don't seem to have any
1999+
> cars in the yard...
>
>
> - Adam J. Green
>
> www.geocities.com/greentaurussho
> 1994 MTX, Emerald Green/Mocha
> K&N, Front Strobes, Indiglo Ford Logo,
> 10 HP Exhaust Tips
> Alpine CDA-7893 paird with 2 12" Type E
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul L Fisher" <sho@paul-fisher.com>
> To: "Dave Kegel" <d.kegel@comcast.net>; "'SHOTimes'"
> <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 8:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] WTB, NEW EATC
>
>
> > Ahhh.... OK. I guess I got the '95s. I was confused since it had a
F4 (94)
> > part prefix.
> >
> > Anyhow, to the OP, just go to www.fordpartsonline.com and order a
new one
> > there. Ask for a '95 EATC.
> >
> > Paul L Fisher
> > '93 Ford Taurus SHO Crimson Clearcoat ATX 175K Build date 11/18/1992
> > - K&N Panel filter, Tokico Struts, Eibach Springs, Dynomax cat-back,
> Holley
> > 190lph fuel pump, FPS rebuilt ATX, 26mm rear sway bar, Performance-
Plus
> > Stainless Steel Y-pipe, '96 brake upgrade, Proportioning valve
plugs,
> Delrin
> > sub-frame bushings, Amsoil Series 2000 0W-30 oil, Amsoil Synthetic
ATF.
> >
> > SHO Club member http://www.shoclub.com/
> > Check out my web site http://www.paul-fisher.com/
> > Amsoil dealer http://www.paul-fisher.com/oil.htm
> >
> > Get $5 free from PayPal!
https://www.paypal.com/refer/pal=P3XEFFBFUFKN6
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dave Kegel" <d.kegel@comcast.net>
> > To: "'SHOTimes'" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 7:24 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] WTB, NEW EATC
> >
> >
> > > The '95 has the good buttons. '94s still have the ones that
crack.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul L Fisher
> > > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 7:12 AM
> > > To: Adam J. Green; SHOTimes
> > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] WTB, NEW EATC
> > >
> > >
> > > When you say modify, what do you mean? As a '94 owner, you should
> > > already have the sturdy button ones, at least that is the kind I
> > > replaced my '93's cracked buttons with.
> > >
> > > Paul L Fisher
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Shotimes mailing list
> > > Shotimes@autox.team.net
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> Message: 7
> From: "Paul L Fisher" <sho@paul-fisher.com>
> To: "Adam J. Green" <ajgreen@epix.net>, "SHOTimes"
> <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] WTB, NEW EATC
> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 07:56:01 -0500
>
> Oh.... I don't read the SHO Forum. Too many children on there. Can't
help
> you then.
>
> Paul L Fisher
> '93 Ford Taurus SHO Crimson Clearcoat ATX 175K Build date 11/18/1992
> - K&N Panel filter, Tokico Struts, Eibach Springs, Dynomax cat-back,
Holley
> 190lph fuel pump, FPS rebuilt ATX, 26mm rear sway bar, Performance-
Plus
> Stainless Steel Y-pipe, '96 brake upgrade, Proportioning valve plugs,
Delrin
> sub-frame bushings, Amsoil Series 2000 0W-30 oil, Amsoil Synthetic
ATF.
>
> SHO Club member http://www.shoclub.com/
> Check out my web site http://www.paul-fisher.com/
> Amsoil dealer http://www.paul-fisher.com/oil.htm
>
> Get $5 free from PayPal!
https://www.paypal.com/refer/pal=P3XEFFBFUFKN6
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adam J. Green" <ajgreen@epix.net>
> To: "SHOTimes" <shotimes@autox.team.net>; "Paul L Fisher"
> <sho@paul-fisher.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 7:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] WTB, NEW EATC
>
>
> > I don't want the 95 unit. It looks the same as the unit I have. I
want to
> do
> > the upgrade as posted in the shoforum so I can have the 1999+ unit
in my
> 94
> > SHO. And since these units are so new, JY's don't seem to have any
1999+
> > cars in the yard...
> >
> >
> > - Adam J. Green
> >
> > www.geocities.com/greentaurussho
> > 1994 MTX, Emerald Green/Mocha
> > K&N, Front Strobes, Indiglo Ford Logo,
> > 10 HP Exhaust Tips
> > Alpine CDA-7893 paird with 2 12" Type E
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Paul L Fisher" <sho@paul-fisher.com>
> > To: "Dave Kegel" <d.kegel@comcast.net>; "'SHOTimes'"
> > <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 8:31 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] WTB, NEW EATC
> >
> >
> > > Ahhh.... OK. I guess I got the '95s. I was confused since it had
a F4
> (94)
> > > part prefix.
> > >
> > > Anyhow, to the OP, just go to www.fordpartsonline.com and order a
new
> one
> > > there. Ask for a '95 EATC.
> > >
> > > Paul L Fisher
> > > '93 Ford Taurus SHO Crimson Clearcoat ATX 175K Build date
11/18/1992
> > > - K&N Panel filter, Tokico Struts, Eibach Springs, Dynomax cat-
back,
> > Holley
> > > 190lph fuel pump, FPS rebuilt ATX, 26mm rear sway bar,
Performance-Plus
> > > Stainless Steel Y-pipe, '96 brake upgrade, Proportioning valve
plugs,
> > Delrin
> > > sub-frame bushings, Amsoil Series 2000 0W-30 oil, Amsoil
Synthetic ATF.
> > >
> > > SHO Club member http://www.shoclub.com/
> > > Check out my web site http://www.paul-fisher.com/
> > > Amsoil dealer http://www.paul-fisher.com/oil.htm
> > >
> > > Get $5 free from PayPal!
https://www.paypal.com/refer/pal=P3XEFFBFUFKN6
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Dave Kegel" <d.kegel@comcast.net>
> > > To: "'SHOTimes'" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 7:24 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] WTB, NEW EATC
> > >
> > >
> > > > The '95 has the good buttons. '94s still have the ones that
crack.
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > > > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul L
Fisher
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 7:12 AM
> > > > To: Adam J. Green; SHOTimes
> > > > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] WTB, NEW EATC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > When you say modify, what do you mean? As a '94 owner, you
should
> > > > already have the sturdy button ones, at least that is the kind I
> > > > replaced my '93's cracked buttons with.
> > > >
> > > > Paul L Fisher
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Shotimes mailing list
> > > > Shotimes@autox.team.net
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> Message: 8
> From: "Steve Weinrich" <stevwein@swbell.net>
> To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Unknown connector
> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 09:34:40 -0500
>
> The switch mounted on the top of the accumulator is the A/C cycling
switch.
> Per the 89 EVTM, it should have LG/P and PK/LB wires.
>
> There is no high pressure cutout switch.
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Mucher" <mmucher@bellsouth.net>
> To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 7:25 AM
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Unknown connector
>
>
> > I would call it a pressure switch - In any case it goes to the
switch on
> top
> > of the receiver/drier/accumulator/etc.
> >
> > I just checked!
> >
> > mm in sunny FL
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-
admin@autox.team.net]
> > On Behalf Of Steve Weinrich
> > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 8:08 AM
> > To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Unknown connector
> >
> > The 89 did not have a High pressure switch.
> >
> > By color code, it's not the AC clutch or the AC Cyling switch,
either.
> >
> > The coolant level sensor is supposed to have RED/WHITE and BLACK
wires.
> > This is the closest I can find to your report.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jim and Debbie Leyden" <jndleyden@mindspring.com>
> > To: "Erik Balser" <masho95@charter.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 3:38 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Unknown connector
> >
> >
> > > Without having an '89 to look at I'm going to take a guess and
say it
> > > is
> > the
> > > A/C High Side Pressure switch. Take a look and see if it is on a
> > > switch that is connected to the top of a black can or into the
side of
> > > a aluminum tube.
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Erik Balser
> > > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 1:37 AM
> > > To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> > > Subject: [Shotimes] Unknown connector
> > >
> > >
> > > Wondering if anyone new off hand what a certain connector went
to. On
> > > a
> > 89
> > > the connector has a solid green and red wires on it and it's
right to
> > > the left of the coolant recovery bottle and lower down. The
connector
> > > is in the
> > same
> > > harness as the positive PCM wire that comes from the battery. I'm
> > > very curious as to what this is because when I was replacing part
of
> > > the
> > positive
> > > PCM wire from the battery I found that the red and green wires
towards
> > > the connector were stripped about and 1/8" and twisted together
and
> > > the connector was plugged into whatever it goes to. Anyone know
what
> > > the connector
> > plugs
> > > into, and why they might have been crossed? Thanks for any help!
> >
> > ---
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> Message: 9
> From: "Mark Mucher" <mmucher@bellsouth.net>
> To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Unknown connector
> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:47:34 -0400
>
> Red and Green on mine! (original)
>
> Mark
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-
admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Steve Weinrich
> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 10:35 AM
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Unknown connector
>
> The switch mounted on the top of the accumulator is the A/C cycling
switch.
> Per the 89 EVTM, it should have LG/P and PK/LB wires.
>
> There is no high pressure cutout switch.
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Mucher" <mmucher@bellsouth.net>
> To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 7:25 AM
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Unknown connector
>
>
> > I would call it a pressure switch - In any case it goes to the
switch
> > on
> top
> > of the receiver/drier/accumulator/etc.
> >
> > I just checked!
> >
> > mm in sunny FL
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> > On Behalf Of Steve Weinrich
> > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 8:08 AM
> > To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Unknown connector
> >
> > The 89 did not have a High pressure switch.
> >
> > By color code, it's not the AC clutch or the AC Cyling switch,
either.
> >
> > The coolant level sensor is supposed to have RED/WHITE and BLACK
wires.
> > This is the closest I can find to your report.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jim and Debbie Leyden" <jndleyden@mindspring.com>
> > To: "Erik Balser" <masho95@charter.net>; <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 3:38 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Unknown connector
> >
> >
> > > Without having an '89 to look at I'm going to take a guess and
say
> > > it is
> > the
> > > A/C High Side Pressure switch. Take a look and see if it is on a
> > > switch that is connected to the top of a black can or into the
side
> > > of a aluminum tube.
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Erik Balser
> > > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 1:37 AM
> > > To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> > > Subject: [Shotimes] Unknown connector
> > >
> > >
> > > Wondering if anyone new off hand what a certain connector went
to.
> > > On a
> > 89
> > > the connector has a solid green and red wires on it and it's
right
> > > to the left of the coolant recovery bottle and lower down. The
> > > connector is in the
> > same
> > > harness as the positive PCM wire that comes from the battery.
I'm
> > > very curious as to what this is because when I was replacing part
of
> > > the
> > positive
> > > PCM wire from the battery I found that the red and green wires
> > > towards the connector were stripped about and 1/8" and twisted
> > > together and the connector was plugged into whatever it goes to.
> > > Anyone know what the connector
> > plugs
> > > into, and why they might have been crossed? Thanks for any help!
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:53:23 -0400
> From: Leigh Smith <leighsm@comcast.net>
> To: Carl Prochilo <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org>
> CC: "'SHOTIMES'" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] VAPS problem & question
>
> Carl;
> I had both a 89 and now a 94 (w/VAPS).
>
> I definately like the feel of the 89 much better. Firm(not heavy)
> better road feel.
> All the control efforts (wheel, brake, throttle, shifter, clutch,
> suspension roll) were much better balanced on the 89, at least post
rod
> shifter mod.
> 20 years of modifying autocross cars has taught me that you want all
the
> control efforts as equal as possible, and as linear as possible.
>
> VAPS defeats that, in two ways, non-linear, and too light relative to
> suspension, etc.
>
> My 94 is very unbalanced and should be a tuning embarassment to FORD.
> The throttle spring was way too stiff (solved) and the steering way
too
> light (broken VAPS stuck on full boost).
>
> And I even got the "decent" 20.6/23 sway bar combination, not the
> severely understeering 20/20 setup!
>
> WOW, thanks Ford!
>
> At least I know how much potential it has!!!
>
> Lee
> P.S. (Working on a manual VAPS stepper motor control switch now.)
>
> Carl Prochilo wrote:
>
> >Allrighty then, something new learned here.
> >
> >For those of you that have both a VAPS and non-VAPS equipped SHO,
which do
> >you like better and why?
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Carl Prochilo
> >92 Ultra Red Crimson
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Ian Fisher" <ianf@eden.rutgers.edu>
> >To: "Carl Prochilo" <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org>
> >Cc: "'SHOTIMES'" <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> >Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 10:43 AM
> >Subject: Re: [Shotimes] VAPS problem & question
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>introduced in 93. It's the same rack as the Lincoln Continental,
VAPS and
> >>all.
> >>
> >>Ian
> >>
> >>On Sun, 13 Jul 2003, Carl Prochilo wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Shotimes appears to be down at the moment, but I thought that VAPS
was
> >>>introduced in the 95 MY. I will say that comparing the 95 and the
92,
> >>>
> >>>
> >there
> >
> >
> >>>is a world of difference in terms of feel. The 95 seems much more
of a
> >>>
> >>>
> >toy
> >
> >
> >>>with the VAPS. No effort at all to rotate the wheel.
> >>>
> >>>Cheers,
> >>>Carl Prochilo
> >>>92 Ultra Red Crimson
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
> >>>To: "'Paul Nimz'" <niks@dlogue.net>; "'SHOTIMES'"
> >>>
> >>>
> ><shotimes@autox.team.net>
> >
> >
> >>>Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 9:13 AM
> >>>Subject: RE: [Shotimes] VAPS problem & question
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Yeah, I guess the best VAPS is one that you don't notice, and I
can't
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >say
> >
> >
> >>>>that I never noticed it on my '99.
> >>>>
> >>>>Still seems to be a needless complication, though.
> >>>>
> >>>>Ron Porter
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> >
> >
> >>>>On Behalf Of Paul Nimz
> >>>>Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 2:16 AM
> >>>>To: Ron Porter; 'SHOTIMES'
> >>>>Subject: RE: [Shotimes] VAPS problem & question
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Actually the Gen 3 VAPS IMO is very good, at least better than my
'93.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >I
> >
> >
> >>>>have disabled the strut part of the SARC though on the '97.
> >>>>
> >>>>Paul Nimz
> >>>>'97 TR
> >>>>'93 EG mtx
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: Ron Porter [mailto:ronporter@prodigy.net]
> >>>>Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 1:08 AM
> >>>>To: 'Paul Nimz'; 'SHOTIMES'
> >>>>Subject: RE: [Shotimes] VAPS problem & question
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>This sounds like Leigh's situation, where it is "stuck" at high
boost.
> >>>>
> >>>>Mine just seems way overboosted at the low-speed setting (under
20 mph
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >or
> >
> >
> >>>>so, I believe). It still seems boosted more than I like at higher
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >speeds,
> >
> >
> >>>>but it does seem to back out some of the boost.
> >>>>
> >>>>Goofy system. VAPS and SARC were probably projects for summer
interns
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >with
> >
> >
> >>>>too much time on their hands!!
> >>>>
> >>>>Ron Porter
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> >
> >
> >>>>On Behalf Of Paul Nimz
> >>>>Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 2:00 AM
> >>>>To: 'SHOTIMES'
> >>>>Subject: RE: [Shotimes] VAPS problem & question
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>IIRC the Gen 2 VAPS is a 4 step situation with the most boost at 0
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >mph. I
> >
> >
> >>>>would assume then that if the effort is very easy then you have
lost
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >12V+
> >
> >
> >>>to
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>the VAPS system while not moving and it is stuck there.
> >>>>
> >>>>The VAPS relies on the VSS and the VAPS module for signal
processing.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >The
> >
> >
> >>>>power flows through the ignition switch and through the interior
fuse
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>panel,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>fuse #5 on the '94 for power to the VAPS module.
> >>>>
> >>>>Paul Nimz
> >>>>'97 TR
> >>>>'93 EG mtx
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> >>>>[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Bob and Anonda
> >>>>Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 7:44 PM
> >>>>To: Ron Porter; 'Leigh Smith'; 'SHOTIMES'
> >>>>Subject: Re: [Shotimes] VAPS problem & question
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Well, mine is a 3G SLO, but the VAPS is the same. Mine doesn't
feel
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >like
> >
> >
> >>>it
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>"kicks in" until at least about 40-45 MPH. Nimz I'm sure knows
the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >exact
> >
> >
> >>>>specs though.
> >>>>
> >>>>Bob
> >>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
> >>>>To: "'Leigh Smith'" <leighsm@comcast.net>; "'SHOTIMES'"
> >>>><shotimes@autox.team.net>
> >>>>Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 8:08 PM
> >>>>Subject: RE: [Shotimes] VAPS problem & question
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>It's no help, but mine always feels to be on full boost on my
'94.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Isn't the VAPS system at full boost at low speed anyway? It is
much
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>lighter
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>than the steering was in my '95, which has the same system, I
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >believe.
> >
> >
> >>>>>Ron Porter
> >>>>>
> >>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>On Behalf Of Leigh Smith
> >>>>>Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 5:01 PM
> >>>>>To: SHOTIMES
> >>>>>Subject: [Shotimes] VAPS problem & question
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>My VAPS power steering on my 94 is apparrently broken.
> >>>>>It is always on full boost.
> >>>>>The steering has so little feel I can turn it with my little
finger!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Even with the Helms, I cannot figure it out.
> >>>>>I have gotten it into test mode, and it will "firm up" during
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >testing,
> >
> >
> >>>>>but immmediately goes back to full soft after jumper removal.
> >>>>>Anyone else ever have any similar problem or any luck fixing
it?????
> >>>>>I can't figure out if it is the module, the actuator, the rack,
or
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >the
> >
> >
> >>>>>wiring.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>TIA
> >>>>>Lee
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