[Shotimes] Rear Tokico's on backorder

Mark Nunnally manunnal@netheaven.com
Sat, 26 Jul 2003 12:07:06 -0400


My 92 sits pretty low with the eibachs (lower than other SHO's I've worked
on, easy to tell by how much clearance from the saddle on the jack to the
front of the bottom of the subframe) my 92 was about -1.7 up front with the
factory un-touched plates.  Now that I don't track the car anymore, I
drilled out the plates and set it to -1.0.

My 89 runs around -1.6-1.7  I also haven't touched the plates on that car
either.

mark

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Prochilo" <gr8sho@prochilo.myserver.org>
To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Rear Tokico's on backorder


> I don't think I was able to get -1.5 after breaking the welds.  Is using a
> Dremmel to shave off some metal in the strut tower to allow the struts to
be
> pulled out further done commonly?
>
> Cheers,
> Carl Prochilo
> 92 Ultra Red Crimson
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>
> To: "'Bruce Malachuk'" <bmalach1@nycap.rr.com>; "'Kirk Doucette'"
> <Kirk.doucette@verizon.net>; <TechSHO@topica.com>;
<shotimes@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 11:46 AM
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Rear Tokico's on backorder
>
>
> > Regardless of how the Gen 3 ZF rack works or fits, aren't those
relatively
> > rare pieces that are pretty pricey, even when used? They were only used
on
> > the Gen 3 SHO, IIRC, so availability will be limited.
> >
> > Although I don't much care for the VAPS setup on this '94 (although I
guess
> > I could try to switch setup to deactivate it), the steering on my '95
was
> > good, and the Gen 1s had no VAPS. UDPs on a Gen 1 tighten it up a bit,
> also.
> >
> > Another question on that '91+. If you have Eibachs, are the spotwelds
cut,
> > and the car aligned to -1.2 to -2.0 camber in the front? On this '94,
the
> > spotwelds were not cut with the Eibachs (don't know what the camber was
set
> > at), and the steering was pretty funky & twitchy. Breaking the welds and
> > getting it to -1.5 helped a LOT.
> >
> > Ron Porter
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bruce Malachuk [mailto:bmalach1@nycap.rr.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 1:38 AM
> > To: Kirk Doucette; Ron Porter; TechSHO@topica.com;
shotimes@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Rear Tokico's on backorder
> >
> >
> > Kirk,
> >
> > When you adapt a Gen 3 ZF rack to a Gen 1/2 please add me to a list of
ppl
> > you'll be doing that for ;-)
> >
> > Bruce
> > 94 Opal Frost MTX
> > 93 Black ATX - winter beater then parts car :-)
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kirk Doucette" <Kirk.doucette@verizon.net>
> > To: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>; <TechSHO@topica.com>;
> > <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 11:32 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Rear Tokico's on backorder
> >
> >
> > > Just finished the front end.. everything now is all new. And the
Gr-2's
> > with
> > > the eibach are almost as stiff as the Tokicos .
> > >
> > > It's a whole new car with this setup, a HUGE upgrade over the stock
> setup.
> > > But if there were three struts to pick. Konis, tokicos, and KYB . The
KYB
> > > would be at the bottom.
> > >
> > > But if you go crazy stiffening up the chassis, with all the bars,
> urethane
> > > and connectors (all the stiff goodies) I would pick the KYB's so you
> could
> > > have a little flex somewhere and would think it will work out nicely.
> > >
> > > Plus with some of the money you save on them you could add other
things
> > and
> > > be at the same cost.
> > >
> > > Im happy with them, I tried them in a few corners and was pleased. Im
> > still
> > > learning the car, with much different geometry than the Gen 3 its
going
> to
> > > be a fun car to drive. This will be the track car for California and
> > haven't
> > > driven an MTX aggressively on a course in 5 years, so today starts the
> NEW
> > > training session.
> > >
> > > One thing I will say that this rack and pinion sucks compared to the
ZF
> > rack
> > > in the Gen 3. and I have to learn to stop pushing new tires until they
> > yell
> > > STOP IT :)
> > >
> > > Question to all.. Has anyone adapted or tried to adapt the ZF rack in
a
> > Gen
> > > 1-2?
> > >
> > > Kirk J Doucette
> > > NESHOC President
> > > Stormtrooper-97 White
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
> > [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On
> > > Behalf Of Ron Porter
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 7:04 PM
> > > To: TechSHO@topica.com; shotimes@autox.team.net
> > > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Rear Tokico's on backorder
> > >
> > > Did they make AGXs for the SHO at one point?
> > >
> > > Yes, I would be interested in the AGX struts.
> > >
> > > Kirk has tried the GR-2s in his '91+, and has liked them so far. I am
a
> > bit
> > > concerned with using the GR-2s with the s, but the AGX look very
> > > promising.
> > >
> > > Ron Porter
> > >
> > > Ian
> > > PS. I might try to bug KYB into making AGX struts for us again-anyone
> > > interested?
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