[Shotimes] Rear Tokico's on backorder

Kirk Doucette Kirk.doucette@verizon.net
Fri, 25 Jul 2003 13:06:09 -0400


Im not sure about the alignment, the guy that does all of the lowering
alignments on the G3's did it.  Shame on me but I never looked or asked..

I got another ZF coming in real soon, the G1 seems to be to springy
(steering wise) its harder that yours in the Blue car but the rack just
don't feel right to me. I have Vaps and non Vaps racks laying around but I
like the way my G3 steers.

Kirk J Doucette
NESHOC President
Stormtrooper-97 White

-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Ron Porter
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 11:47 AM
To: 'Bruce Malachuk'; 'Kirk Doucette'; TechSHO@topica.com;
shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Rear Tokico's on backorder

Regardless of how the Gen 3 ZF rack works or fits, aren't those relatively
rare pieces that are pretty pricey, even when used? They were only used on
the Gen 3 SHO, IIRC, so availability will be limited.

Although I don't much care for the VAPS setup on this '94 (although I guess
I could try to switch setup to deactivate it), the steering on my '95 was
good, and the Gen 1s had no VAPS. UDPs on a Gen 1 tighten it up a bit, also.

Another question on that '91+. If you have Eibachs, are the spotwelds cut,
and the car aligned to -1.2 to -2.0 camber in the front? On this '94, the
spotwelds were not cut with the Eibachs (don't know what the camber was set
at), and the steering was pretty funky & twitchy. Breaking the welds and
getting it to -1.5 helped a LOT.

Ron Porter

-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Malachuk [mailto:bmalach1@nycap.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 1:38 AM
To: Kirk Doucette; Ron Porter; TechSHO@topica.com; shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Rear Tokico's on backorder


Kirk,

When you adapt a Gen 3 ZF rack to a Gen 1/2 please add me to a list of ppl
you'll be doing that for ;-)

Bruce
94 Opal Frost MTX
93 Black ATX - winter beater then parts car :-)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kirk Doucette" <Kirk.doucette@verizon.net>
To: "Ron Porter" <ronporter@prodigy.net>; <TechSHO@topica.com>;
<shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 11:32 PM
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Rear Tokico's on backorder


> Just finished the front end.. everything now is all new. And the Gr-2's
with
> the eibach are almost as stiff as the Tokicos .
>
> It's a whole new car with this setup, a HUGE upgrade over the stock setup.
> But if there were three struts to pick. Konis, tokicos, and KYB . The KYB
> would be at the bottom.
>
> But if you go crazy stiffening up the chassis, with all the bars, urethane
> and connectors (all the stiff goodies) I would pick the KYB's so you could
> have a little flex somewhere and would think it will work out nicely.
>
> Plus with some of the money you save on them you could add other things
and
> be at the same cost.
>
> Im happy with them, I tried them in a few corners and was pleased. Im
still
> learning the car, with much different geometry than the Gen 3 its going to
> be a fun car to drive. This will be the track car for California and
haven't
> driven an MTX aggressively on a course in 5 years, so today starts the NEW
> training session.
>
> One thing I will say that this rack and pinion sucks compared to the ZF
rack
> in the Gen 3. and I have to learn to stop pushing new tires until they
yell
> STOP IT :)
>
> Question to all.. Has anyone adapted or tried to adapt the ZF rack in a
Gen
> 1-2?
>
> Kirk J Doucette
> NESHOC President
> Stormtrooper-97 White
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
[mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]On
> Behalf Of Ron Porter
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 7:04 PM
> To: TechSHO@topica.com; shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Rear Tokico's on backorder
>
> Did they make AGXs for the SHO at one point?
>
> Yes, I would be interested in the AGX struts.
>
> Kirk has tried the GR-2s in his '91+, and has liked them so far. I am a
bit
> concerned with using the GR-2s with the s, but the AGX look very
> promising.
>
> Ron Porter
>
> Ian
> PS. I might try to bug KYB into making AGX struts for us again-anyone
> interested?
> _______________________________________________
> Shotimes mailing list
> Shotimes@autox.team.net
> http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/shotimes
> _______________________________________________
> Shotimes mailing list
> Shotimes@autox.team.net
> http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/shotimes
_______________________________________________
Shotimes mailing list
Shotimes@autox.team.net
http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/shotimes