[Shotimes] OT - IRL Gen 4 Chevy, NOT!

[Carl Prochilo]

Too bad they're getting their butts kicked all over F1 circuits.  I
particularly feel sorry for Jordan because as a small team, they tend to
struggle against the 4 factory backed giants as it is.  Jag-ya-ah as the
Ford factory team hasn't been able to get it together this year despite
having one of the better drivers in F1, i.e. Mark Webber.

Cheers,
Carl Prochilo
92 Ultra Red Crimson
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Donald Mallinson" <dmall@mwonline.net>
To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] OT - IRL Gen 4 Chevy, NOT!


> DAve,
>
> Cosworth is an engineering firm and they do work for MANY
> clients.  Ford may own the firm, but they don't and should
> NOT control who they do work for.
>
> As with a lot of this type of firm, they do work in secret
> for a lot of companies, even the "competition".  Thus
> Cosworth, owned by Ford can do work for GM, but the work is
> kept secret and not shared with Ford.  Otherwise, NOBODY
> would do ANY work with Cosworth.
>
> Before Cosworth was purchased by Ford, they did work for all
> sorts of companies.  In racing you go with people that can
> get things done, and no matter who owns them, Cosworth is
> one of the best.
>
> Ford bought Cosworth to get some of their expertise, but
> also to make money.  For Cosworth to make money, they must
> do work for all their old and new clients, not just Ford.
>
> Everyone in the engineering and racing community KNOWS the
> contribution that Cosworth made, and yesterdays race raised
> their stock in trade a huge amount.  They got all the credit
> they needed or asked for.  Quite often a deal like this is
> kept secret.  I applaud Chevy for going public and fixing a
> very embarrassing problem.
>
> Lots of big companies need help.  Ferrari gets outside help,
> same with Mercedes, BMW and others.  They hire the
> competitions people, hire engineering firms, buy stuff off
> the shelf, even in F1.
>
> Needing help is also not anything to be ashamed of.  Happens
> to all the makes/racers at one time or another.  Roush,
> Penske, etc.
>
> Don Mallinson
>
> Dave Kegel wrote:
> > Yes.  I can't believe that deal went through.  Gen 4 Chevy.  What BS is
> > that?  Neither Ford nor Cosworth get any official credit, air time, or
> > marketing out of that deal.  Why the heck would they help bail out
Chevy, or
> > the IRL for that matter, which is the rival series to the Ford Powered
CART
> > series?   And how will they be able to compete against them in a year or
two
> > if CART goes belly up?
> >
> > Dave Kegel
> > Still a CART fan first and foremost, but I do watch all the IRL races
too.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Don McKinnon (AST)" <dmckinnon@asttechlabs.com>
> > To: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: July 28, 2003 12:10 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Shotimes] OT - IRL Gen 4 Chevy, NOT!
> >
> >
> >
> >>IMHO, it is yet another Ford mistake!  Just think Ford could have come
> >
> > into
> >
> >>IRL and be a major presence, instead it lets GM pull their head out of
> >
> > their
> >
> >>ass...
> >
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